The United States is not a Wiccan nation. It’s a Christian nation.
You said — The United States is not a Wiccan nation. It’s a Christian nation.
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Ummm..., it doesn’t appear to be a Christian nation to me, but rather — a nation in which a certain number of Christians live... (which isn’t the same thing).
As a “nation” — it appears to me, that the USA is under the judgment of God (of which the election of Obama is one result...). The USA is far, far from being a Christian nation...
From another post...
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Okay, as a “general theme” here, to my answers, and before I get into my answers, I will say that the general them is that — the USA is under the judgment of God, right now, and it remains to be seen what the response of the USA will be to that judgment of God.
It’s either going to be repentance or a further hardening of the hearts of the people of this country, “as a nation”.
That judgment of God upon the USA stems from some very specific and overt actions of the country, over decades, along with the “general” action of the abandonment of God in this nation.
Those specific actions that God is judging are — the actions of the US in forcing the dividing of the land of Israel, the killing of 50 million kids over several decades, and the promoting of homosexuality and homosexual marriage in this country.
And, an *obvious result* of that judgment of God, is the sending, by God, President Obama, to be President over this land, in order to carry out God’s judgments upon this land. In other words, the people have voted to get the “best government that they deserve” and God has determined that the best deserved for this people of this land — is President Obama. Obama is the judgment of God over the USA.
And remember, one does not *thwart* the judgment of God; that can never happen. So if someone thinks that they will get rid of Obama by trying to thwart His judgment and get rid of the President He put into place, they are sadly mistaken.
There’s only *one proven way* to “thwart” the judgment of God, and that is by the repentance of the nation (and “as a nation”).
At this point, I’ll bring up another post I have done on this issue..., and the following is from another such post...
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Now, God is a forgiving God, though, and if we *do listen* to an example of a previous President, this nation *may* find some grace from our Creator God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
BUT, without the requisite repentance, don’t expect the grace of God upon this nation (although as individuals, we do live in God’s grace on our personal lives, in accepting the salvation offered by Him, through faith in Jesus, the Messiah of Israel...)
To see *how far the U.S. has fallen* — from God and His righeousness..., just look at what Abraham Lincoln wrote...
The following is a “national repentence” thread.
Abraham Lincoln’s Word to the United States Today
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2232720/posts
[ —This is Lincoln’s original proclamation, with only *four words* changed in *one phrase* (only)... The rest is the exact same proclamation, except for the dates adjusted, and that’s all (and the note at the very bottom of the proclamation, the very last line...) — ]
A Proclamation.
Whereas, the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the Supreme Authority and just Government of Almighty God, in all the affairs of men and of nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for National prayer and humiliation.
And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.
And, insomuch as we know that, by His divine law, nations like individuals are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of economic and national collapse, which now desolates the land, may be but a punishment, inflicted upon us, for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole People? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us!
It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.
Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do, by this my proclamation, designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th. day of July, 2009, as a day of national humiliation, fasting and prayer. And I do hereby request all the People to abstain, on that day, from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite, at their several places of public worship and their respective homes, in keeping the day holy to the Lord, and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.
All this being done, in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the Divine teachings, that the united cry of the Nation will be heard on high, and answered with blessings, no less than the pardon of our national sins, and the restoration of our now divided and suffering Country, to its former happy condition of unity and peace.
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the City of Washington, this 12th day of April, in the year of our Lord two thousand and nine, and of the Independence of the United States the two hundred and thirty second.
By the President: Abraham Lincoln
Sent by the Word of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
NOW..., as to whether the U.S. and its people *will do this* — that’s another question. I seriously doubt it — so I think the judgment of God will *stay in place* and the U.S. is going down...
The United States is not a Wiccan nation. It’s a Christian nation.
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The United States is a country where every single person has the right to worship as they see fit. As far as the government is concerned, a person’s religious beliefs are between that person and God. It is none of the governments danged business.
Are you saying we should outlaw Wiccan (or any other religion) because the majority of people in the US are Chrisitans? Are you saying Wiccans (or people of any other religious faith) have fewer rights to practice their religion than Christians.
I am a Christain. Probably more fundamentalist than 90% of Christians in the US, but I believe every single American has the right to worship as they see fit.