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USA Today fact-checks Obama’s town-hall assertions (and finds several whoppers)
Hotair ^ | 8/12/2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/12/2009 12:25:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

They’re not terribly enthusiastic about it, but USA Today corrects the record — in a sidebar — on a number of assertions made by Barack Obama yesterday at his Portsmouth, NH forum. They leave out the biggest whopper, which is Obama’s claim that he has never favored single-payer health-care systems, but they do catch a couple of other big fibs, including Obama’s snow job on AARP endorsement. One of the best catches from USA Today concerns Medicare Advantage, about which Obama has lied for over two years:

“Insurance companies basically get $177 billion of taxpayer money to provide services that Medicare already provides.”

About 10.2 million Medicare recipients are in Medicare Advantage. Under that program, the government pays insurers a set amount per Medicare beneficiary. Obama ridiculed it as costly and redundant, but the plan provides additional benefits, such as vision, dental and hearing, to seniors and helps coordinate health care for those with chronic conditions, says Robert Zirkelbach at the trade association, America’s Health Insurance Plans.

In fact, Medicare Advantage is a Godsend for those trapped within the Medicare system. Recipients pay substantial monthly premiums, but the plan allows for better provider payments, which keep providers from locking patients out of their clinics. The extended insurance provides coverage for services which Medicare ignores, and some create a co-payment system rather than the 60/40 system Medicare gives seniors and the disabled in practice.

How do I know this? The First Mate has Medicare Advantage, and we saw what Medicare did before we got the supplemental coverage. It’s a disaster for anyone needing anything more than just maintenance care.

Next:

“Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Not necessarily. In an analysis of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee bill, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that 10 million workers could lose employer-provided benefits and would have to find other insurance.

Some analyses put that number much higher — as high as 83 million. Obama insists on making this argument despite all evidence to the contrary, especially since businesses control insurance options for most people in the US. If Obama makes it attractive for businesses to dump their employees into a public plan, then most people won’t be able to keep their existing plans. And thanks to ObamaCare, they won’t have many options to find private insurance, either.

“The rumor that’s been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for ‘death panels’ that will basically pull the plug on Grandma. … (T)he intention. .. was to give people more information so that they could handle issues of end-of-life care when they’re ready, on their own terms. … (O)ne of the chief sponsors of this bill originally was a Republican … (Sen.) Johnny Isakson from Georgia.”

Isakson issued a press release saying Obama misused his name. A provision he attached to a Senate health care bill would allow seniors to obtain help in formulating a living will something Isakson said is different from House language. The House bill would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, but it would not mandate that anyone use the benefit.

The media had a field day with this yesterday, using Isakson as a bat with which beat conservative critics, but it never occurred to the layers of fact-checkers and editors that a Senator would have had nothing to do with a clause in a House bill. In fact, Isakson does support making end-of-life planning available, but doesn’t support the mandate for it that exists in Section 1233 of the House bill.

Kudos to USA Today for doing a good job of fact-checking, even if they couldn’t devote a separate article to it. (via QandO)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aarp; bho44; bhohealthcare; bhotownhalls; factcheck; obama; obamacare; townhall; usatoday
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1 posted on 08/12/2009 12:25:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

As Obamas approval rating breaks 50 and heads for 40 they will become more desperate and more pathetic. Also more dangerous.


2 posted on 08/12/2009 12:29:20 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The truth hurts, especially when USA has to come out and admit its child might be a tad wayward... It’s like a mother finally admitting her son is a serial killer...but he’s still a good kid! /s


3 posted on 08/12/2009 12:29:57 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: SeekAndFind

The AARP should sue for Obama for claiming they supported the health care fiasco. When I heard that, I decided I would never join AARP. I wonder how many other people felt the same?


4 posted on 08/12/2009 12:30:15 PM PDT by CAD Daddy
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To: SeekAndFind
Try this again.

5 posted on 08/12/2009 12:30:56 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not what you say. It’s how you say it. If it’s a lie, but is stated smoothly, it’s OK. Right?


6 posted on 08/12/2009 12:35:10 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: CAD Daddy
The AARP do support obamma, the majority of its members are union thugs. They just do not want it made public, because then informed customers will find a different insurance company.
7 posted on 08/12/2009 12:39:58 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

like listening to a great song and never quite knowing what the lyrics are saying.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 12:43:29 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is a consummate liar who needs to be thrown out or carried out of office before he totally destroys America.


9 posted on 08/12/2009 12:47:53 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: SeekAndFind

If an employer can save money by not offering insurance why would they? Employees are the biggest expense a business has. If given the choice between dropping the coverage or keeping it, why would they keep an unnecessary expense?

Is it more complicated and I am not understanding?


10 posted on 08/12/2009 12:48:17 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: CAD Daddy

I wonder how many AARP members are canceling their memberships daily?


11 posted on 08/12/2009 12:49:36 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom

“AARP- Moveon.org with false teeth” (El Rushbo)


12 posted on 08/12/2009 12:52:37 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


13 posted on 08/12/2009 12:53:29 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: panthermom
I wonder how many AARP members are canceling their memberships daily?

My parents were both conservative and AARP members. They never saw a connection between AARP and the liberal beast. For them it was just discounts.

14 posted on 08/12/2009 12:59:10 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: panthermom

My husband and I cancelled our membership a couple of weeks ago. We had joined less than six months ago. They gave us a refund on the balance of our membership.

I think they’re getting the message.


15 posted on 08/12/2009 1:03:00 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile, FactCheck.org has turned into an out-and-out shill for Obamacare. Disappointing.


16 posted on 08/12/2009 1:19:48 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Can we trade in the clunker we have in the White House?)
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To: SeekAndFind
but it never occurred to the layers of fact-checkers and editors that a Senator would have had nothing to do with a clause in a House bill.

It'd be fun to ask them about that, and offer that they shouldn't leave their day job at the carnival anytime soon.

17 posted on 08/12/2009 1:22:58 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama Voodoo economics - Thuggery, sleight of hand, temper tantrums & spitting on OUR dreams.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
It’s not what you say. It’s how you say it. If it’s a lie, but is stated smoothly, it’s OK. Right?

Exactly. It's the party of trial lawyers. And after years of obtaining staggering monetary verdicts and criminal acquittals, they know how to speak to the American public sheeple.
18 posted on 08/12/2009 1:23:17 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: CAD Daddy

AARP did support it until membership cancellations started.


19 posted on 08/12/2009 1:26:02 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

It all comes down to wtf wtf means.


20 posted on 08/12/2009 1:27:01 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama Voodoo economics - Thuggery, sleight of hand, temper tantrums & spitting on OUR dreams.)
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