[nanetteclaret]

It’s Peter Singer. He believes that a baby can be “aborted” up to the age of about two years old simply because it cannot reason until then. Lots of info on him out there.

[sweetiepiezer]

Thank you, check out post #26 also.
This is what I found on Singer. Is he one of the czars, if not, what position does he hold in this administration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer

n his book Rethinking Life and Death Singer asserts that, if we take the premises at face value, the argument is deductively valid. Singer comments that those who do not generally think abortion is wrong attack the second premise, suggesting that the fetus becomes a “human” or “alive” at some point after conception; however, Singer argues that human development is a gradual process, that it is nearly impossible to mark a particular moment in time as the moment at which human life begins.
Singer lecturing on medical ethics.

Singer’s argument for abortion differs from many other proponents of abortion; rather than attacking the second premise of the anti-abortion argument, Singer attacks the first premise, denying that it is wrong to take innocent human life:

[The argument that a fetus is not alive] is a resort to a convenient fiction that turns an evidently living being into one that legally is not alive. Instead of accepting such fictions, we should recognise that the fact that a being is human, and alive, does not in itself tell us whether it is wrong to take that being’s life.[27]

[the invisib1e hand]

See you have been doing some research, I am in a discussion with a liberal and cannot find who said that a child is not a person until 2 years of age, was it Dr. Emanuel or was it the Science Czar Holdren? Thanks.

Thanks, as I really haven't been doing that much research. Just glances at Emanuel's paper for the NIH in which the Complete Lives System is described.

There is such a thing as "scarce medical care": for example, ten people need a heart, 3 are available. This is a matter that cannot be ignored.

The danger is that the framework of "allocating scarce resources" will be transposed across the board, once government completely f)cks up the market allocation of all medical resources, which currently are not scarce, but surely will be once the elephant stomps into the marketplace.

That possibility, FRiends, is fearsome indeed.