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Ezekiel Emanuel Article: Deny Medical Care to Alzheimer's Patients
IsraPundit ^ | 8/12/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 08/12/2009 10:45:03 AM PDT by Winged Hussar

We previously compared Obamacare to the German Aktion T4, in which "life unworthy of living" was to be eliminated through denial of medical care or even palliatives such as Zyklon B. In fairness to the health care bill HR 3200, of which we downloaded a complete copy, the section on end of life counseling does not mandate or even encourage euthanasia. ...However, Ezekiel Emanuel (Rahm Emanuel's brother, with close ties to Barack Obama) is on written record as advocating denial of "discretionary" medical care to patients with dementia such as Alzheimer's Disease: a position entirely consistent with Germany's Aktion T4 health care plan. The Hastings Center Report in question also talks about "communitarianism," and the Communitarians are on record as advocating practices that all responsible hunters and firearm owners would define as slob hunting and vicious cruelty to animals.

    This civic republican or deliberative democratic conception of the good provides both procedural and substantive insights for developing a just allocation of health care resources. Procedurally, it suggests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed. Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia. A less obvious example is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alzheimers; elderly; emanuel; ezekiel; ezekielemanuel; obama; obamacare; rahm; rahmemanuel
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1 posted on 08/12/2009 10:45:03 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar

Unseless bread gobblers /s


2 posted on 08/12/2009 10:47:04 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Winged Hussar

interview with the guy who made the headlines from yesterday’s Specter town hall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGb_eElg24Q


3 posted on 08/12/2009 10:47:24 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: Winged Hussar

Ezekiel Emanuel’s medical license should be revoked.


4 posted on 08/12/2009 10:48:54 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Winged Hussar

I think the Obama camp thinks of them as “Useless Emitters of Greenhouse Gases.


5 posted on 08/12/2009 10:49:21 AM PDT by Always Right (The Brown Shirt Media © is coming!)
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To: b4its2late

What, you don’t want Dr. Zeke as your oncologist?
He probably had a very low patient readmission rate...


6 posted on 08/12/2009 10:51:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: Winged Hussar

My father died of this problem. Withhold care? Are they totally heartless? Have they ever had their father look at them and not know who they were? Have they ever been in a position where they could no longer have a conversation with their father? I wish with all my heart that the medical industry had found a way to cure my father but it was not there. We can’t give up on our parents and grandparents. Those that gave their lives for us deserve all our support, not the government killing machine.


7 posted on 08/12/2009 10:51:45 AM PDT by RC2
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To: silverleaf

I wouldn’t want him as my proctologist, one a—hole in the exam room is enough.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 10:56:37 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: b4its2late
Ezekiel Emanuel’s medical license should be revoked.

Long, long ago!

Instead, he is Director of the Clinical Bioethics Department at the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

9 posted on 08/12/2009 11:00:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Winged Hussar

He is a hoodlum scum as his brother.


10 posted on 08/12/2009 11:01:57 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: b4its2late
Ezekiel Emanuel wrote an article for The Hastings Center Report in 1996, in which he suggested that public deliberative forums should decide which health services should be socially guaranteed, and that those services "that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations" might be considered by this deliberative body as "basic", while "services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed". He goes on to give examples illustrating these two concepts: "not guaranteeing health services to patients with demenia", while "guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason".
11 posted on 08/12/2009 11:03:05 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Winged Hussar
May I have a clarification for future use? He is speaking to any medical care/services to these *useless eaters* is he not? He is not advocating they be denied ONLY if they are under government insurance, right?

I just want to be certain, so that should I use a quote later on, some other message board, some nitwit won't come along and say "They can always pay for it themselves" or such.

12 posted on 08/12/2009 11:07:09 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Winged Hussar
We previously compared Obamacare to the German Aktion T4, in which "life unworthy of living" was to be eliminated through denial of medical care or even palliatives such as Zyklon B. In fairness to the health care bill HR 3200, of which we downloaded a complete copy, the section on end of life counseling does not mandate or even encourage euthanasia. ...However, Ezekiel Emanuel (Rahm Emanuel's brother, with close ties to Barack Obama) is on written record as advocating denial of "discretionary" medical care to patients with dementia such as Alzheimer's Disease: a position entirely consistent with Germany's Aktion T4 health care plan.

I sincerely pray to God that neither Obama, either of the Emanuels, or any supporter of this horrible "plan" ever suffers from a debilitating disease or has a loved one who suffers such a fate.

And,I hope that God will forgive them for their horrible, perverted and disgraceful characterizations of human beings!

13 posted on 08/12/2009 11:09:59 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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My mother died this June 23.she had internal bleeding set in..( I still say it was the medicine for Alzheimer’s.Mixed with her heart medication..and Dr said she was 82 and too weak to operate on..that her “poor” heart was tired out......(I lost it)...........I know the heartbreak...we were with her for a week before she passed and she didn’t know us at all....the look in her eyes was so pleading.as please help me..whats going on....... Ezekiel Emanuel (this so called Dr) is one cold hearted Bast**d........How dare he.......


14 posted on 08/12/2009 11:10:02 AM PDT by kati2fl
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To: kcvl

I wonder who the older one is of the two, Zeke or Rhammmy


15 posted on 08/12/2009 11:12:05 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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16 posted on 08/12/2009 11:13:57 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: MozarkDawg

“services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed”.


17 posted on 08/12/2009 11:17:24 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Winged Hussar

bookmark


18 posted on 08/12/2009 11:19:39 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: kcvl

It fits right in with having a tax cheat over Treasury.


19 posted on 08/12/2009 11:21:22 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Winged Hussar
How about research into the causes of Alzheimer's, and possible treatments that delay the onset of the mental deterioration? Are those verbotten (a little NaziGerman lingo there) as well? If a hypothetical future discovery allows, say, a two year delay in the dementia, do we implement that treatment, or just suppress the research results so Alzheimer's sufferers and their family are not aware that the treatment exists? And counsel the family that poor Uncle Robert would be better off with an "expedited end-of-life" treatment?
20 posted on 08/12/2009 11:25:02 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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