Posted on 08/11/2009 4:29:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog
A man, who was one of four people arrested in connection with having an arsenal of dangerous weapons hidden inside a Poinciana home, said the weapons were just a hobby. The four suspects in the case face some very serious charges.
The incident started with a discovery made behind a medicine cabinet and a secret compartment full of weapons. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms (ATF) will help Osceola deputies determine what laws may have been broken.
Jett Cramer, his fiancée Gayle Justice, and their friend and roommate William Scott Clark all made appearances on drug-related charges before an Osceola County judge Tuesday.
"Do you understand the nature of the charges against you?" a judge asked.
"Yes sir," responded Clark.
However, the most serious charge Clark faces is for having an explosive device. Deputies found what they described as a bomb and a stash of weapons in a secret compartment in Clark's Osceola County home, including a mortar launcher, mortar shells and automatic weapons.
The explosives were found during the course of a marijuana investigation. None of the weapons found on Nicholas Court appear to be stolen and Clark, who described himself as a hobbyist, told deputies he has a Florida concealed weapons permit as well as a federal permit to own automatic weapons. Eyewitness News learned owning fully automatic weapons are legal under certain circumstances.
"There's a very vigorous background check done by local authorities," said Larry Anderson of Shoot Straight Gun Range.
In a phone interview from the Osceola County jail Tuesday, Jett Cramer said that Clark is a collector.
"It's a hobby, he wouldn't hurt a fly," Cramer said.
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th having an arsenal of dangerous weapons hidden inside a Poinciana home, said the weapons were just a hobby...
You say that like it is a bad thing.
Every true American Patriot should have an arsenal of weapons, ammunition and accessories hidden well enough NOT to be discovered by yahoo deputies, federal hacks or other fascist jackboots.
The video is about one inch wide on my monitor. She what is included in the “arsenal.” And what exactly is an arsenal? I’d like to know if I have one yet.
My prediction, no charges on the weapons unless they nail him for drug trafficking. If he gets nailed for drug possession, does anybody know if ATFE can pull your tax stamps on your class III toys?
“Eyewitness News learned owning fully automatic weapons
are legal under certain circumstances.”
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No, duh!
There used to be a guy on FR with the signature line: "I am not a 'gun nut'. I am a 'firearms enthusiast'."
The media is aghast over the guns. I’m stupified as to why a legal gun owner is stupid enough to get involved with drugs.
Yes, indeed.
That’s all it takes to make an arsenal? Hmmm.
Please tell me you're not that dumb. Have you ever filled out a 4473 let alone a form 4?
After viewing this man’s collection all I can say is, he’s not very neat and he has more room for more guns.
After viewing this man’s collection all I can say is, he’s not very neat and he has more room for more guns.
There are some unanswered questions.
For instance:
What were the marijuana charges? If the charges are possession without intent, then, I’m not sure the police or ATF can legally seize the weapons. (although, with ATF’s track record, good luck getting the weapons back in working order)
Another question is the mortar and, I suppose, ammunition for the mortar.
ATF is known to stretch facts to make things look worse than they actually are.
Is the mortar in working order? Or, is it a de-milled version? Same with the mortar rounds.
I can see it now, the so-called “bombs” are mortar rounds, which were described to the reporter as being a sort of “bomb.”
The guns may have been legal at one time, but when he got into the illegal drug business, all of his guns became illegal. That is the law.
Sounds as though they had more than one hobby.
For what it’s worth, the 1919 in the crate appears to be a semi-auto version. Considered an ordinary rifle under Federal Law. You can tell by the hand crank-fire mechanism where the trigger is located.
The mortar is probably deactivated and as such a non-gun. Pictures don’t show much detail. It’s possible to have been rebuild as a black powder muzzle loader. If so, still not a firearm under Federal Law.
Don’t know about the “mortar-bombs” as there wasn’t much detail. If he did build some explosive rounds for the BP mortar, that’s what will hang him.
There is no such thing as a “dangerous weapon”. There are only dangerous people. . .
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