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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Do they truly want another Civil War?

Yes, they do. The problem is if the American people possess the constitution to take it that far. Something tells me that most of us wouldn't devote our lives or our fortunes to this country anymore.

7 posted on 08/10/2009 3:24:19 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: All; rarestia
Ron: I think that you and lots of other people will be in for the shock of your lives come October, for that's when I predict this will really catch on fire. Go to the Pelosi/Hoyer op-ed here at FR and click on the link, then read the comments. Remember, this is at the USA Today, hardly a conservative newspaper...
10 posted on 08/10/2009 3:28:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: rarestia

Back when, only a few did, and that was enough.


22 posted on 08/10/2009 4:06:12 AM PDT by PIF
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To: rarestia
Something tells me that most of us wouldn't devote our lives or our fortunes to this country anymore

Something tells me we will not have a choice. Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

You are thinking October, but their target date is 9/12.

We are up against a mighty force in these people. An amazingly deceptive network of people. I feel we can no longer ponder how we got here, but where we are going. We've been told to sitdown and shutup. If we do that we will lose, give away, our Rights. In return we will get peace? You see we've always been the silent majority and we're not silent right now. Once we've started making noise, talking, connecting it won't be stopped.

War, is on the horizon and we’ve already been framed as the enemy, as the terrorists, and extremists. Most of us have already been reported to the DHS, we just don't know it yet or we're in our own bubble of denial. On April 15th, 2009 at our tea party we joked and kidded each other about being categorized as enemies of the state.

They hold the upper hand in propaganda and will continue to do so. So, we must find another way and stop complaining about the Propaganda Press. We must create our own newspapers, flyers, etc. and get them put in public places. Deliver them free door to door in our own locals. In other words we must find an alternative. The internet for now is Ok, but it won't be here as free as it is today.

We have several results to seek. I have less faith that 2010 or 2012 will hold any valid meaning. In fact they are pushing for a crisis to stop the elections. I felt 2008 was our last chance. I cried that day after I voted. When people lose faith in the electoral system it will collapse. I watched closely what they did here in Ohio in 2008. Tactics were tested here in 2004 & 2006. I warned people that whatever they get away with in Ohio will be pulled nationwide. 2008 was an opportune event for them and honest elections & voting died the month of November.

The last civil war had a leader at the end that could still save the union. That could reconstruct what was torn asunder. 0bama doesn't have the skill to do that, nor is that his goal. One leader wanted to save the country, the other wants to destroy it. Recall during the campaign he noted Lincoln a lot. The code wasn't about Lincoln's leadership, the message was about a civil war.

I have started wondering do all these hardcore marxists etc. get tried and convicted of Treason? Do we revoke their citizenship and turn them out of the country? What of their underground network? The ACORN, teachers, college professors, etc.? What do we do with that 10%, 20%, 25% of the population that denounces their citizenship by their support of socialism, marxism, etc.?

We’ve long tolerated their type and now we find we’ve tolerated them for far too long. In a country of Free Speech, should speech in opposition to our founding documents be tolerated? I have my own conclusion to that question and many patriots here would deny me for it. Speech that works to overthrow our freedoms, our nation, our Constitution is treason.

Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises a formidable cry of defense. Thomas Paine

Our time, our generation’s call, the Liberty Bell is ringing

37 posted on 08/10/2009 4:29:31 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: rarestia; 2ndDivisionVet
Do they truly want another Civil War?

'Yes, they do. The problem is if the American people possess the constitution to take it that far. Something tells me that most of us wouldn't devote our lives or our fortunes to this country anymore.'

Ditto on yes they do (want war).
But I'm thinking it'll be more along the lines of another Revolution (Rev2.0). Barry, his stooges and these DC elites are acting EXACTLY like King George and Parliament - 'pi$$ on the Colonies and what they think.'

The Revolution 'started' long before The Declaration of Independence was written, or before the 1st shot was fired at Lexington Green in 1775, and even before The Boston Massacre of 1770. And when it finally was under way only 20-25% of the Colonists actually supported the Revolution and/or Independence.(1)

So everyone doesn't have to arm up and 'Storm the Walls'.

(1) Many of those 'Colonial Mansions' like Hillary lives in were confiscated from Loyalists who were told 'to hit the road'. So off they went to Canada or back to England.

76 posted on 08/10/2009 6:09:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: rarestia

I have my life and honor to pledge. Not much of a fortune though.


82 posted on 08/10/2009 6:14:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: rarestia
Many of us do not have much to live for any more, lost loved ones, lost money. the last thing to loose is our freedom we either give it away or we fight to keep it. That is our choice.
192 posted on 08/10/2009 3:06:54 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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