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Who is getting 'Stimulus?' (Political Payoffs)
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| 8/8/09
| Ron C
Posted on 08/08/2009 11:41:34 PM PDT by Ron C.
Edited on 08/08/2009 11:51:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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Wheres all that Stimulus money going? We were told it was to create jobs, but we know with certainty that few to no permanent jobs were created. We also know that Stimulus did nothing for the economy but did much to repress it.
The worst part of the Stimulus handout is the huge amount that went to Pell Grants most of it to benefit leftist university and student interests (one of Obamas greatest support groups) not a dime of which will create a job.
Now you can see for yourself where all of it went - and by how much. A few short-term jobs were created some as short as one day - just to claim that a job was created.
As you might expect, the biggest winner of Stimulus has been California, receiving a whopping $15.7 billion, and Los Angeles County getting the lions share of that, at $2.1 billion some of that going to long neglected street and sidewalk pavement, and keeping the huge number of incompetent city employees employed but a vast amount of it going to renovating transit buses, renovation of decaying schools and lots of money to interests of the leftist teachers unions, probably Obamas second greatest source of support in California.
Check your County
see who is getting what amount. You can bet government workers will be getting the greatest amounts. Meanwhile forget about small business, particularly any that are Republican or Conservative.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhostimulus; economy; federalspending; payola; stimulus
Many thanks to
Stephen Frank for pointing us to this information. See his notes down-page re., "Obama Stimulus About Political Payoffs, NOT Jobs"
And MANY THANKS to Michael Grabell, Jennifer LaFleur, Dan Nguyen, and Jeff Larson of Pro Publica - for making the huge effort to lay all of this out for the nation to see.
This is without doubt the greatest case of political payola - at taxpayer expense - in this nation's history.
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:41:34 PM PDT
by
Ron C.
To: Ron C.
Might want to double check the links in your post.
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:44:28 PM PDT
by
allmost
To: allmost
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:46:52 PM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: Ron C.
Both of the links are to blank pages.
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:52:33 PM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
(30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
To: Ron C.
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:52:57 PM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
(30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
To: Ron C.
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:55:38 PM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
(30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
To: allmost
Don't know how that happened... but, it was probably some kind of 'fat finger' on my part. LOL
Anyway - this is really an eye opener, for me anyway. I figured the 'stimulus' was payola... but, this confirms it, as Cheney would say, big time!
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:55:46 PM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: Ron C.
But I thought some multi-million dollar government website was going to give us this information. /sarc
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:56:03 PM PDT
by
Need4Truth
(Downsizing government is more than just reducing taxes.)
To: Need4Truth
LOL - NOT! (They reeeeaallly don’t want you to know!)
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:57:04 PM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: RandallFlagg
Easy does it... you'll pop a blood vessel!
LOL - maybe that's for the burger flippin' youth (college types) that voted 0!
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posted on
08/08/2009 11:59:48 PM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: RandallFlagg
Notice how many ‘single family housing’ grants there are? Bet some of these are those who worked on 0’s campaign and ‘needed’ better ‘digs.’
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:11:06 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: Ron C.
Honestly, I am so disgusted with my country and government lately, that at times I feel almost detached from it. I find myself just wanting to get out. It’s just too big and too complicated. Those pell grants are sickening. The amounts are staggering! Is there any reason they can’t get student loans and pay them back. UGH!! I wish I hadn’t even looked.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:13:43 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
To: Ron C.
I look at this cronyism/theft that my children will still be paying off and it's a bit maddening. Good links BTW.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:16:41 AM PDT
by
allmost
To: mojitojoe
Don't give up, joe... we ain't licked yet, not by a long shot.
This sucker will pay for his crimes in more than one way. He's already on the way to being the most unpopular prez in US history.
And no... there is no reason for all these grants, other than political payola.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:17:55 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: Ron C.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:18:35 AM PDT
by
Captain Beyond
(The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
To: Ron C.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:18:44 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
To: allmost
More than a ‘bit maddening’ - this will infuriate a huge number of people across this great land.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:19:17 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
Comment #18 Removed by Moderator
To: Ron C.
That’s an amazing compilation of porkulus funds. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:20:09 AM PDT
by
Need4Truth
(Downsizing government is more than just reducing taxes.)
To: Ron C.
I've been reading about this from day one. Whatever information is available. I say ‘a bit’ to keep myself from getting piSSed off.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:21:58 AM PDT
by
allmost
To: mojitojoe
Thanks for more dope on Pell Grants, 'joe...
BUT - forget the amount shown! I know one guy who got over 35K - he posted a picture of the check on the Internet!
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:22:48 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: Ron C.
I hope you are right because I’m running out of steam. It’s been a year now since the Marxist really entered our lives and you know, I like to be right, but this time I wish I had been wrong. I knew what he was but thought he might not be as bad as he could be. It’s a hundred times worse. It’s not just him, there is a huge cold war between the Marxists that are sure this is their one and only chance and the other side trying desperately to save the Republic.
Our vacation home outside the US may just get a lot more use, as in permanent use. If they ram that health care through, that’s it. It’s over. Cap and Trade will follow and it will all come tumbling down. I’m out of here. Health care is the game changer for my family.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:25:52 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
To: mojitojoe
'Its a hundred times worse.' Yes it is! Far worse than many many people thought possible. But, I figured it would be, and I hoped the bloody zero would over-reach big... and the fool did just that, and he's losing support big now because of it.
I expect this may get worse - as in some form of 'health care' bill passing in September... and a big push for Cap 'n Trade to follow. But I also expect, that 'one-two' punch will be the undoing of the Democrats for likely the next 15 to 20 years. What these nazi's enact can and will be repealed - simply because the public will demand it.
It's going to be a long hard slog, but American's are mad as hell, and they're ready for a fight - and by heaven the anti-big-gov public will prevail!
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:43:23 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
(Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
To: RandallFlagg
BURGER KING $999,000.00 ?!?!??!! http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/locale/colorado/adams WTF?I'm with you-- our Dairy Queen got 301 grand.
Jesus in a sidecar...
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posted on
08/09/2009 2:11:33 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: Ron C.
To: mojitojoe
Hey Joe - I clicked on the county I was jerked up in and lo and behold...what a scam I'm seeing. $1.149 million to a friggin JEWELERY store...thats more than to the entire city school district I gaijiated from.
Something else I'm seeing....monies to chain stores...no doubt receiving monies in other states and other counties...just feeding off the gov't teat where ever they can. Monies to businesses with multiple locations in various states and counties. A million here...a million there...suck suck.
And monies going to so-called businesses for which no info can be found on the web...thats very strange.
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posted on
08/09/2009 3:09:25 AM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus)
To: Ron C.
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posted on
08/09/2009 3:36:22 AM PDT
by
myknowledge
(F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
To: Tainan; Ron C.
In my county one indivdual got money from Pell Grants (4 different distribut1ons) totaling 125K. She runs a beauty school. Does the Pell Grant program pay the school for a students tuition straight to the institution?
By the way she is a Republican and donated to Bush-Cheney in 2004 and to the RNC in 2006.
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posted on
08/09/2009 4:27:18 AM PDT
by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
If you want to have some fun, sort it by Date Granted. The first to get their hands into the cookie jar was section 8 housing, the second was community health centers. Basically free housing and health care for the “Poor”.
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posted on
08/09/2009 5:20:45 AM PDT
by
Woodman
("The law is a funny thing")
To: Ron C.
Thanks for posting this info! Going in the Freeper Keeper file.
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posted on
08/09/2009 5:56:07 AM PDT
by
penelopesire
("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
To: Red_Devil 232
As I remember the Pell Grant procedure it goes like this:
Student applies for(fills out the paperwork) for the Grant.
School processes their end of the paperwork and then submits it up the chain
Appropriate State/Federal office does their processing of paperwork and then grants or denies the applicant
Paperwork and monies are then returned to the school
Check is sent to student if application is successful
Now, I do not remember if the Pell Grant checks were issued by he school or a Federal/State group. Part of me thinks it was a Federal check and part of me thinks it was a school check....and part of me thinks it was a School check issued on a Federal account. I think I remember picking up the check from Student Affairs Office some years and other times it was mailed to my address(home). Its been too many years for me to remember.
Perhaps someone younger and more 'in the know' can help out with this.
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posted on
08/09/2009 6:24:54 AM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus)
To: Ron C.; All
The only stimulus benefits I see have been to the people already sucking on the government teat that I interview for a local food/clothing bank.
Government Unemployment “free money” has been raised and extended.
Government Food Stamp handouts have been raised substantially (from $178/month to $316/month in a recent example).
And where do these folks believe this beneficence comes from? Why, from -7nobama, of course!
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posted on
08/09/2009 9:45:46 AM PDT
by
upchuck
(Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
To: Ron C.
Franklin County (Columbus) Ohio
Majority went to Pell Grants and Section 8 Housing (gotta keep those illegals housed!)
HEY OBAMA....WHERE ARE THE JOBS????
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:09:30 PM PDT
by
Kimberly GG
((PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012))
To: Tainan; Red_Devil 232
To my knowledge, Pell grant checks are issued by the government and go directly to the college to offset a student’s tuition.
Stafford Loans are sometimes issued to the student, but usually only after the school takes their portion to cover housing/tuition. It’s the only time I know of that a student receives any money directly...my sons have used the remainder for books and sometimes housing if living off campus.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:14:56 PM PDT
by
Kimberly GG
((PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012))
To: upchuck
Exactly!! And check out the $$$$, by county, being spent on Section 8 housing!
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:17:54 PM PDT
by
Kimberly GG
((PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012))
To: Kimberly GG; Tainan
Thanks to both of your answers.
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posted on
08/09/2009 12:20:53 PM PDT
by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
To: Ron C.
...Big business trying to pork big government, and big government trying to pork big business. Two Big Pigs wraped in the same blanket. You got it, that will cost you trillions...
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posted on
08/09/2009 1:00:00 PM PDT
by
gargoyle
(...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
To: myknowledge
...All the tables are empty! Did the big busness pig slip out the back door? Uppp the bill is still there, they left it for us to pay...
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posted on
08/09/2009 1:03:55 PM PDT
by
gargoyle
(...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
To: RandallFlagg
...Bama King. It’s the dollar menu, this year. 5 trillion two big pigs in a blanket, we get the bill...
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posted on
08/09/2009 1:08:40 PM PDT
by
gargoyle
(...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
To: mojitojoe
Find out more about the “Food Safety Act” HR 2749 and you’ll be horrified. The requirements for farmers will starve us long before we die of untreated illnesses.
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posted on
08/09/2009 6:10:30 PM PDT
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Now you can see for yourself where all of it went -- and by how much. A few short-term jobs were created -- some as short as one day -- just to claim that a job was created.
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posted on
08/09/2009 7:07:24 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: SunkenCiv
“The worst part of the Stimulus handout is the huge amount that went to Pell Grants most of it to benefit leftist university and student interests (one of Obamas greatest support groups) not a dime of which will create a job.”
It won’t create a job but it will decrease unemployment numbers. As long as unemployment #’s look better what does Obama care ? It’s only taxpayer $’s.
Just like the cash for clunkers. Spend billions of tax payer dollars to make it look like the auto industry he has taken over is improving.
To: Bigjimslade
Bribing Peter to rob Paul to pay Peter.
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posted on
08/09/2009 10:47:45 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: allmost
Please include Karal Busch, who, it turns out, was the “peeker” who accessed Obama’s passport data in early 2008. Getting $400,000 plus to teach classes on “Marriage enrichment.”
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posted on
08/10/2009 8:34:15 AM PDT
by
cookcounty
("Education is not the filling of a bucket, but the lighting of a fire." ---Yeats)
To: RandallFlagg
Love all those “Shovel-Ready” projects the “Stimulus” is going to....
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posted on
08/10/2009 10:05:00 AM PDT
by
shredderman
(Living in a Blue State, with a Blue Wife, But I'm Red to the bone.....)
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