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Gun control on a roll?
Washington Times ^ | Friday, August 7, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 08/06/2009 11:47:32 PM PDT by JohnRLott

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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Lots of ‘Rats and RINOs in the Congress are going to be history after next fall.

You mean the 2010 election cycle which actually starts in 2010 so there's 15 months or so until an actual election. Plenty of time for the RATs and RINOs to gather more rope for their hanging tree. I just hope they don't manage to complete the destruction of the nation in that time period.

21 posted on 08/08/2009 12:21:43 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: JohnRLott
the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence counted eight NRA-endorsed senators who spurned the powerful gun-rights group to support her nomination.

They better be "formerly NRA-endorsed senators" after this.

22 posted on 08/08/2009 2:15:02 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
They’ll never “come for” our guns the way most people envision it. Most likely, they’ll stop by your workplace, question you and taze you...or just taze you...and arrest you. Then when your family comes to bail you out, they execute a search warrant on the vacant home. Kill the dog, take the guns, and get home by suppertime. Like taking candy from babies, it doesn’t require a swat team.

That will be fine the first few times, even the first few dozen times. They can't do everyone on the same day, or even the same week.

Then folks will get pro-active.

23 posted on 08/08/2009 2:18:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Charlespg
burial tubes

Only if you have spares you need to preserve. Also useful for ammunition you can't carry along.

Otherwise, when it's time to bury 'em it's time to use 'em.

24 posted on 08/08/2009 2:21:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: LFOD

The politicians are terrified when some well-dressed citizens talk back to them at constituent meetings.

Imagine if people started showing up in cammies with “threatening” t-shirts.


25 posted on 08/08/2009 2:24:04 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Two words: Phone tree.

Got yours set up?

26 posted on 08/08/2009 2:24:05 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: El Gato

>> They can’t do everyone on the same day,
>> or even the same week.

They can’t do it at all if they can’t make the payroll, and where do govts get their money...?

Ah, well. I’m surrounded by optimists. We shall see. IMO, the govt won’t get around to gun confiscation until the last few diehards are left — those who haven’t sold, traded, or surrendered their guns for things like...legal bills, food, electricity, water, and bail money. But when they do get around to confiscation, what on earth are you going to do about it then? It’ll be too late when hardly anyone still has a gun or the will to go out and fire it on your behalf.

Good law-abiding people don’t want to start something. But something has already been started against them, and they don’t want to see it, nor do they feel it very keenly yet.

Oblivious frogs are coming to a boil.


27 posted on 08/08/2009 2:49:16 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ("Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.")
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To: Lurker; Charlespg

>> Got yours set up?

Hmm, I think I learned about stuff like that in Girl Scouting. But we were discussing the government when it no longer worries about hiding its tyrannical intentions. And there are people who have been in intensive training camps, learning to resist torture, avoid capture, and fight evil alone in the wilderness...and still they failed. If you underestimate the professionals, you’re in for a terrible shock.
Yes, crowning all their other advantages, they will have the element of surprise on those of us who hesitate and plan for a perfect, blue-sky day we have spun in our dreams, while tucking treasures in hope chests like little girls.
But of course that’s what we good law-abiders do! Phone trees and burial tubes. Yep!


28 posted on 08/08/2009 3:12:49 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ("Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.")
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I’m changing my tagline.


29 posted on 08/08/2009 3:15:07 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Hmm, I think I learned about stuff like that in Girl Scouting.

I figured you for a Girl Scout.

But we were discussing the government when it no longer worries about hiding its tyrannical intentions.

Yes, I know. Do you?

And there are people who have been in intensive training camps, learning to resist torture, avoid capture, and fight evil alone in the wilderness...and still they failed.

Been there, done that, and they haven't played with me, yet.

If you underestimate the professionals, you’re in for a terrible shock.

Not much of a student of history, are you.

Yes, crowning all their other advantages, they will have the element of surprise on those of us who hesitate and plan for a perfect, blue-sky day

That's exactly what I'm NOT planning for, Scooter.

But of course that’s what we good law-abiders do!

Who's "we" kimosabe?

30 posted on 08/08/2009 3:26:03 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

>> Who’s “we” kimosabe?

“We” are those who add careful disclaimers so we won’t get premature visits from the FBI, you big brave keyboarder.

Now, don’t try to rankle me, I’m just the bearer of bad news you need to hear.

It’s ironic, but nobody has to fight, if they just do the correct NOTHING right now. That would be, do nothing instead of enabling the tax addicts. It isn’t a blaze of glory; your chances of that are weaker than your chance of winning the lottery with a free ticket.

However, people too complacent to join a tax rebellion or quit a job that entails withholding taxes, are not going to reenact the gallant last hours of the Alamo, Masada, Thermopylae and Little Big Horn. If you are not fighting already you are not preparing to fight, but to die.

Of course, that’s [disclaimer!] what I’m doing [/disclaimer], but I don’t kid myself that I can outfight or outwit the authorities with a tube, a phone and a closetful of things that go pop.

Been there done that, eh Cupcake? Then you’d know I’m right.
Quit making it sound like the enemy has no brains, no bullets, and no cooperation.


31 posted on 08/08/2009 3:47:42 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
It’s ironic, but nobody has to fight, if they just do the correct NOTHING right now

Maybe you're smarter than I gave you credit for. Probably not, but maybe.

32 posted on 08/08/2009 3:50:03 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

And you may be an exception to the typical bunch. I hope so. :)


33 posted on 08/08/2009 3:54:40 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

So do I my friend. So do I.


34 posted on 08/08/2009 4:05:36 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
It’ll be too late when hardly anyone still has a gun or the will to go out and fire it on your behalf.

They might get me, but it'll only take one other "die hard", to more than avenge me. I'm old, I can deal with that.

35 posted on 08/08/2009 4:42:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
I'm old, I can deal with that.

And that's why they need to "reform" health care. Because gun control on you seasoned citizens can be hazardous. They're much safer taking away your health care decisions so you'll croak sooner. And if that doesn't work, some govt shrink will certify that you are too bats#it to own a Norelco, never mind firearms. Whatever it takes.

36 posted on 08/08/2009 5:02:59 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: JohnRLott

The dems will stick gun control onto a bill they see as “Must pass”. And, the gun control will make the Clinton years of the AWB look like the good times.

Obama and the Dems will seek these 4 elements in a gun bill

1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licenses will have high renewal fees ($100-300/yr). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.

2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets. Furthermore, this will require the gun to leave a microstamp of its own on the ammo. (BTW, this will also affect law enforcement and military ammunition stocks, as they will be required to have stamps of their own)

3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon. If you can’t afford this, you have to turn the weapon in without compensation...

4. Expansion of the Lautenberg amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.

Finally, all CCW permits will be voided. Also, all gun and ammo imports will be banned.


37 posted on 08/10/2009 3:30:26 AM PDT by Thunder90
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