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French Aircraft Carrier Sails Without Nukes
fas.org ^ | August 4th, 2009 | Hans M. Kristensen

Posted on 08/05/2009 6:14:55 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

French Aircraft Carrier Sails Without Nukes

The French nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle with air wing on deck.

By Hans M. Kristensen

France no longer deploys nuclear weapons on its aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle under normal circumstances but stores the weapons on land, according to French officials.

President Nicolas Sarkozy declared in March 2008 that France “could and should be more transparent with respect to its nuclear arsenal than anyone ever has been.” But while the other nuclear powers declared long ago that their naval weapons were offloaded or scrapped after the Cold War ended, a similar announcement has – to my knowledge – been lacking from France.

The French acknowledgment marks the end of peacetime deployment of short-range nuclear weapons at sea.

It is not clear when the French offload occurred; it may have been instigated years ago. But it completes a worldwide withdrawal of short-range nuclear weapons from the world’s oceans that 20 years ago included more than 6,500 British, French, Russian, and U.S. cruise missiles, anti-submarine rockets, anti-aircraft missiles, depth bombs, torpedoes and bombs.

Nuclear Charles de Gaulle

The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle carries a squadron of Super Étendard bombers equipped with the ASMP nuclear cruise missile. From 2010 these aircraft will be replaced with the Rafale MK3 (navy version) equipped with a new nuclear cruise missile known as the ASMP-A. The weapon will enter service with air force’s Mirage 2000Ns this fall and next year with the Rafale F3.

A Super Étendard prepares to take off from an aircraft carrier with an ASMP nuclear cruise missile shape under its right wing.

France previously operated two aircraft carriers, the Clemenceau and Foch, with nuclear capability. Initially armed with nuclear bombs, the ships were upgraded to the ASMP in the late 1980s, but decommissioned in 1997 and 2000, respectively. Plans to replace them with two nuclear-powered carriers did not materialize; only the Charles de Gaulle has been built.

A Rafale F3 aircraft with an ASMP-A nuclear cruise missile shape installed on the center pylon.

With a range of only 300 km (500 km for the ASMP-A), the cruise missile strictly speaking falls into the category of U.S. and Russian non-strategic weapons, but France calls its cruise missile strategic or pre-strategic. Technically, the range of the aircraft delivering the cruise missile extends the range to 2,000-2,500 km, similar to the U.S. nuclear Tomahawk land-attack cruise missile and the Russian SS-N-21. But that assumes the aircraft will be able to penetrate the air defenses of the target country. Regardless, potential adversaries probably care less about the category terminology than the fact that the weapon is nuclear.

During normal circumstances the cruise missiles are stored on land, perhaps in a weapons storage area close to the carrier’s homeport in Toulon. The weapons storage spaces onboard the Charles de Gaulle are maintained and the crew periodically trained and certified to store and handle the missiles so they can quickly be brought onboard if a decision is made to deploy the them.

As for the Charles de Gaulle’s nuclear strike mission, it can hardly be said to be essential; During the extended time periods the carrier is in overhaul (18 months), France does not have a sea-based nuclear cruise missile capability.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charlesdegaulle; france; frenchmilitary; frenchtroops; navair; nuclear; rafale; sarkozy
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1 posted on 08/05/2009 6:14:56 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

No nukes, but plenty of surrender flags.


2 posted on 08/05/2009 6:16:10 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper Thug - Don't Tread On Me!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

As if we have any room to talk with the Kenyan Usurper in the White House.


3 posted on 08/05/2009 6:17:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sort of like TV deputy Barney Fife who had to keep his revolver unloaded and had one bullet in his pocket that he could load if the Sheriff said it was OK. France is the world’s Mayberry?


4 posted on 08/05/2009 6:20:04 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: sukhoi-30mki

When I saw the headline, I thought maybe it was powered by wind and solar.

I suppose that’s next ... course ... it will be dead in the water. But the French will prolly be OK with that.


5 posted on 08/05/2009 6:23:12 AM PDT by webschooner (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: webschooner
Me too, I expected to see a huge Mast in the middle with a big white Sail on it.
6 posted on 08/05/2009 6:27:54 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nerf Navies seem to be gaining in popularity...

Don’t want anyone getting hurt ya know...


7 posted on 08/05/2009 6:28:07 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well, they’re not likely to need ‘em. The Etenards and Rafales are formidable enough.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 6:29:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Didn’t the Charles de Gaulle once sail without a prop?
Dropped it into the Atlantic, IIRC.


9 posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:13 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: RicocheT
Sort of like TV deputy Barney Fife who had to keep his revolver unloaded and had one bullet in his pocket that he could load if the Sheriff said it was OK. France is the world’s Mayberry?

Exactly.

I wounder how you say "NIP IT!" en Français?

10 posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:39 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: RicocheT
Sort of like TV deputy Barney Fife who had to keep his revolver unloaded and had one bullet in his pocket that he could load if the Sheriff said it was OK. France is the world’s Mayberry?

Exactly.

I wonder how you say "NIP IT!" en Français?

11 posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:46 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: dfwgator

I guess our carriers are loaded with apologies for any tin-horn dictator they come across.


12 posted on 08/05/2009 6:31:38 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper Thug - Don't Tread On Me!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hey, at least the props worked this time.


13 posted on 08/05/2009 6:37:02 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

At least they remembered the airplanes!


14 posted on 08/05/2009 6:38:07 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

No red dots on the LCP? What fun is that? :-(


15 posted on 08/05/2009 6:39:28 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: magslinger

ping


16 posted on 08/05/2009 6:40:46 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The fact that the Charles de Gaulle sailed at all is the big news here.
17 posted on 08/05/2009 6:48:53 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
The only requirement for inclusion in the Navair Pinglist is an interest in Naval Aviation.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

18 posted on 08/05/2009 6:59:30 AM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Neither do American carriers thanks to George H.W. Bush.

http://www.gerline.de/wb/media/dokumente/Presidential%20Nuclear%20Initiative%201991.pdf

19 posted on 08/05/2009 10:43:51 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

France under Sarkosky is showing more balls than we are. I think we should give them a break for a while.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 2:24:29 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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