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To: kaizen
In my opinion, What Oboma has released as his original Certificate of live Birth is a basic short form given to foreign born (and foreign adoption) infants. I believe Obomas mother brought the child in for a U.S. certificate, but because he was born in another country months earlier, she was given a basic short form that proves nothing but the fact that the child had been born.

Hawaii law allows an adult to alter, or amended, the birth records a hospital has on file. The original is still filed, but an amended version is created. The adult is allowed to alter information such as birth date, father, nation of birth, etc., provided they have documentation to prove what is being altered is true. BUT, with a foreign born infant, the entire birth record is considered "assumed". Because everything is "assumed", so are the alterations. No proof is then necessary for the amendment. The amended foreign born certificate, or foreign born adoption certificate, is not legally valid as proof of natural U.S. citizenship because the missing information.

I would think an amended document would also require a date indicating the day of the amendment. Maybe a stamp on the back of the document for the records.

Description of foreign born adoption - basic short form
(http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0020_0005.htm)

I believe Obomas has no long, natural born Certificate of Live Birth to provide. I believe all he has are forgin born formats: original forign born, adoptive forign born, and ammended forign born.

15 posted on 07/30/2009 9:44:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Don’t waste your time publishing your thoughts. They don’t matter and just add noise. All we need to focus on is asking for proof that 0 satisfies Article II, Section I, Cl. 5 of the Constitution.


35 posted on 07/30/2009 12:24:46 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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