[marktwain]

jwparkerjr posted:
“The officer talked with Gates inside the house and was in the process of leaving when Gates followed him out onto the porch and continued the diatribe.”

marktwain replies:
I think you are mistaken. Officer Crowley asked Professor Gates to continue the conversation outside. The police report states:

“when asked by Crowley to speak with him outside the residence, Gates replied, “ya, I'll speak with your mama outside.”

It seems likely to me that Crowley asked Gates to come outside specifically so that a disorderly conduct charge could be plausible. Why else ask him to come outside?

[jwparkerjr]

re: Why else ask him to come outside?

SOP for an officer when facing a situation where he does not know what he’s dealing with for certain. He is having to deal with a belligerent citizen who is yelling at him and preventing him from communicating with his dispatcher or other officers. He simply needs to get that person into an environment where he feels he has more control over the situation. Where on the property something takes place has nothing to do with anything other than the safety of the officer.

[MrEdd]

It seems likely to me that Crowley asked Gates to come outside specifically so that a disorderly conduct charge could be plausible. Why else ask him to come outside?

You seem to entirely leave out the option of Gates calming down and conversing rationally. In fact, you seem to imply that in some insidious fashion, Crowly robbed Gates of the capacity for calm and rational dialog.

Just..wow. He should perhaps found his own lucrative cult religion if he has the abilities your post would require he have to be valid.

[jessduntno]

“It seems likely to me that Crowley asked Gates to come outside specifically so that a disorderly conduct charge could be plausible. Why else ask him to come outside?”

Lousy reception on his radio? Echoing from the bullying, racist ahole that was screaming so loud it could be heard across the street? Who knows? What are you a mind reader?