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Germans Hoarding Traditional Light Bulbs
Speigel Online ^ | 07/27/2009 | Alexander Jung

Posted on 07/29/2009 9:45:18 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian

The staggered phase out of energy-wasting light bulbs begins on Sept. 1 in Germany. The unpopularity of the energy-saving compact fluorescent bulbs that will replace them is leading consumers and retailers to start hoarding the traditional bulbs.

As the Sept. 1 deadline for the implementation of the first phase of the EU's ban on incandescent light bulbs approaches, shoppers, retailers and even museums are hoarding the precious wares -- and helping the manufacturers make a bundle.

The EU ban, adopted in March, calls for the gradual replacement of traditional light bulbs with supposedly more energy-efficient compact fluorescent bulbs (CFL). The first to go, on Sept. 1, will be 100-watt bulbs. Bulbs of other wattages will then gradually fall under the ban, which is expected to cover all such bulbs by Sept. 1, 2012 (see graphic below).

Hardware stores and home-improvement chains in Germany are seeing massive increases in the sales of the traditional bulbs. Obi reports a 27 percent growth in sales over the same period a year ago. Hornbach has seen its frosted-glass light bulb sales increase by 40-112 percent. When it comes to 100-watt bulbs, Max Bahr has seen an 80 percent jump in sales, while the figure has been 150 percent for its competitor Praktiker.

"It's unbelievable what is happening," says Werner Wiesner, the head of Megaman, a manufacturer of energy-saving bulbs. Wiesner recounts a story of how one of his field representatives recently saw a man in a hardware store with a shopping cart full of light bulbs of all types worth more than €200 ($285). "That's enough for the next 20 years."

And hoarding doesn't seem to be just a customer phenomenon. The EU law only forbids producing and importing incandescent bulbs but does not outlaw their sale.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: energy; germany; globalwarmingscare; green; greens; hording; junkscience; lightbulbs; manufacturedcrisis; pseudoscience; socialism; speculation; tulips
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 9:45:19 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Gee, I wonder why ...

LOL!!!!

We’re doing the same thing.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 9:46:58 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I buy two or three packages every time I go shopping.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 9:47:57 AM PDT by alarm rider (None shall be crowned who has not fought well. 2 Tim 2:5.)
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To: nmh

So are we!

Glad the Germans finally caught on.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 9:48:55 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama: "Irrational black guy--GOOD. White policeman--BAD! UGGA--UGGA!")
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To: nmh

I use the new bulbs everywhere except the bedroom and bathroom. I like them ok but I think when the LED technology is more widely available, that will be better than these florescent ones.


5 posted on 07/29/2009 9:49:30 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Maybe they can sell them to Meth users for a good profit.


6 posted on 07/29/2009 9:50:06 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
I recently remodeled my home after my moms death.

I swear some of those light bulbs were in the sockets when I was a kid.

The life span of some of those bulbs were as long as a dogs life.

7 posted on 07/29/2009 9:50:23 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
I've been hording them for a year now. Every time I am at Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, etc I buy 8 or 10. I have a good stock for my personal use for life and plenty to sell as the price skyrockets. Good old Black Market cash. Yep, this plan will do much better than my current 401K.
8 posted on 07/29/2009 9:50:44 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I’ve got a couple of years’ supply - does anybody know the shelf life? It seems like it would be roughly “forever”.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 9:51:19 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

Just keep quiet on this or somebody in the gov will want to change the socket standard. hehe


10 posted on 07/29/2009 9:53:23 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Too funny, it is almost like the leftists in our country want to replicate every single stupid thing they do in Europe.

This will be happening here shortly....we need to start hoarding ourselves.

11 posted on 07/29/2009 9:54:46 AM PDT by LibertyThug ("Equal rights for all, special privileges for none." Jefferson)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

California goes mercury laden mandatory in 2010. I am stocking up and hoarding my favorite bulbs every pay check. No doubt the thought police and gun grabbers will be knocking at my screen any day now


12 posted on 07/29/2009 9:57:48 AM PDT by the long march
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To: Cheap_Hessian

My husband is a fan of the new energy bulbs. I am not.

He put them in my clothes closet and now I seem to be leaving the house in mismatched clothes as I can’t tell the browns from the greens anymore.

And they make my eyes hurt from trying to see as they are not bright enough.

I keep buying the old bulbs and he can’t figure out why.


13 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:23 AM PDT by billygoatgruff
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I used to find working Mazda bulbs regularly when I was an electrician for summer work in the 70s. I have a drawer full of them. Some of them even have the little melted glass nipple on the top.


14 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:25 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: billygoatgruff

Change husbands.


15 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:49 AM PDT by DHC-2 (my flags: http://www.jdlinn.com/liberty.html)
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To: alarm rider

I’m stocked up on bulbs and .223s.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 10:01:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: the long march; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; Lucky9teen
Seinfeld, The Sponge:

KRAMER: Are you still on the pill?

ELAINE: Uh, Kramer...

KRAMER: I'll tell ya, I think birth control should be discussed in an open forum.

ELAINE: The sponge, o.k.? The Today sponge.

KRAMER: But wasn't that taken off the market?

ELAINE: Off the market? The sponge? No, no...no way. Everybody loves the sponge.

KRAMER: I read it in Wall Street Week...Louis, uh, Rukeyser.

< Elaine laughs. >

...

< Elaine enters. > Hey.

ELAINE: Well, Kramer was right. My friend Kim told me the sponge is off the market.

JERRY: So what are you gonna do?

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GEORGE: Just for these sponges?

ELAINE: Hey man, women are really loyal to their birth control methods. What does Susan use?

GEORGE: I dunno.

ELAINE: You don't know?

GEORGE: I, uh...figure it's something.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 10:04:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I got mine! 100W bulbs are now hard to find. Most are made in Mexico now and some are made in China.

100W bulbs are perfect for keeping the wellhouse warm in winter. No burst pipes.

I use florescent in places hard to get to but still like incandesant in others.

God I hate government social engeneering!


18 posted on 07/29/2009 10:05:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Cheap_Hessian
LOL! I thought I was the only light bulb hoarder! I just mentioned to my husband that I was in Wal-Mart a couple of days ago and the regular old light-bulbs were down to about a foot of shelve space. As usual, I bought several packs.
19 posted on 07/29/2009 10:06:51 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: alarm rider

My Grandpa tells me he uses the burnt out ones for his darkroom.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 10:08:25 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Thomas Edison....Public Enemy #1......


21 posted on 07/29/2009 10:09:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cheap_Hessian
It's getting harder to find some of the bulbs I like. I really like the standard screw base halogen bulb, and I have a torchiere light that takes two bulbs up to 150 watts each. One flip of the switch and my entire living room is lit up, unlike what HGTV says is fashionable to have little tiny lights everywhere. Yes, I know it costs me money for the electricity for them, but it's worth it. Nothing, not even regular incandescents and especially not fluorescent, put out quite the same white light halogens do. But those bulbs are getting harder to find as their shelf space is bumped to make room for more CFLs.


22 posted on 07/29/2009 10:12:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: billygoatgruff
That is really strange, because the tungsten bulbs cast an orange glow on everything, F bulbs are greenish.

I think I'll start referring to the Florescent bulbs as F-Bulbs.

23 posted on 07/29/2009 10:14:08 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Change over to the F-Bulbs- Enjoy the toxins!)
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To: billygoatgruff
I have found it takes as long as 5 or 10 minutes for the CFLs to reach full brightness at normal room temperatures!

Many of the CFLs are so-called warm whte but definitely not as bright nor correct in color rendition as ordinary incandescent lamps.

The LEDs lamps so far have been too bluish or yellowish and the leak to weak for comfortable reading or clothes sorting.

I find CFLs and LEDs to be terrific for low electric use in safety lighting;they provide enough light to prevent trips and falls and cost little if left on .

So far for task lighting and comfortable room lighting nothing beats the incandescent in 75 or 100 watt sizes.Traditional fluorescent eventually cause eyestrain and headaches due to the flicker.

The human eye and brain were made to use the steady illumination of the sun and the illumination of our homes and work by what amounts to semi-continuous flashbulbs stresses the eye and brain.

24 posted on 07/29/2009 10:15:02 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Let’s see now,...

Name some great things to smuggle and make piles of money on:

1.) Tax free cigarettes

2.) Ammo

3.) Light bulbs

4.) Toilets

5.) Obammy birth certificates

What else?


25 posted on 07/29/2009 10:15:47 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: nmh

me, too. I guess the plan will work until the light bulb enforcers arrive at the front door.


26 posted on 07/29/2009 10:19:42 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
There is a 40 watt incandescent bulb in my daughter's Easy Bake Oven. It is the heat source, it cooks the food. Somehow I doubt that a fluorescent will work.
27 posted on 07/29/2009 10:21:59 AM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: Molly Pitcher

At first they’ll just drive through neighborhoods with spectrophotometers to see if you have a “correct” fluorescent spectrum or an “eeeeeeevil” incandescent one.


28 posted on 07/29/2009 10:28:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: Born to Conserve

REALLY. pictures? I want some. :)


29 posted on 07/29/2009 10:37:43 AM PDT by musicbymuzak
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To: Cheap_Hessian

It’s going to be funny when the ban fails for the same reasons prohibition failed. I’ve got some extra ones I’ll put them up on E-bay for a HUGE MARK UP once the ban takes effect here in America. LOL


30 posted on 07/29/2009 10:38:17 AM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: KarlInOhio
OH YES. I refuse to buy any other bulb than Edison, i've been splurging lately and buying the Edison Reveals. God, that crisp, beautiful light(tm) is ADDICTIVE. my ex could never understand why I would spend $5 per bulb.. but he sure did when I moved out and replaced all my Edison Reveals with regular bulbs ;)
31 posted on 07/29/2009 10:39:21 AM PDT by musicbymuzak
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To: KarlInOhio

HA! You know what this reminds me of: the Nazis driving thru neighborhoods listening for illegal radio transmissions...


32 posted on 07/29/2009 10:40:18 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Molly Pitcher
"HA! You know what this reminds me of: the Nazis driving thru neighborhoods listening for illegal radio transmissions..."

That sounds like the Fairness Doctrine. : )

33 posted on 07/29/2009 10:46:26 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: ladyvet
I thought I was the only light bulb hoarder!

Nope. I have accumulated several hundred by now. When Walmart stopped selling GE bulbs, I had to stoop to buying Chinese bulbs at the dollar stores.

34 posted on 07/29/2009 10:47:28 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BLOAT - Buy lots of ammo today)
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To: hoosierham

Has anyone else seen the effect of putting a CFL
in a ceiling fan light?

Don’t do it if you’re epileptic. It is intolerable even to those who are unafflicted. (You’ll probably become epileptic).


35 posted on 07/29/2009 10:52:28 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: TexasRepublic

Me too. I buy them by the case at Home Depot every time I go.


36 posted on 07/29/2009 10:53:57 AM PDT by CobraJet
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To: garyhope
Let’s see now,...

Name some great things to smuggle and make piles of money on:

1.) Tax free cigarettes

2.) Ammo

3.) Light bulbs

4.) Toilets

5.) Obammy birth certificates

What else?

We are fast approaching the day when there will be widespread shortages and people standing in lines for hours waiting for crumbs at the government stores, just like in the former Soviet Union. Some goods will be available on the black market at astronomical prices. I'm not joking, we will relive a horrible era in history.

37 posted on 07/29/2009 10:54:32 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BLOAT - Buy lots of ammo today)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

True, true, sadly too true.


38 posted on 07/29/2009 10:57:30 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: TexasRepublic

Re: “We are fast approaching the day when there will be widespread shortages and people standing in lines for hours waiting for crumbs at the government stores, just like in the former Soviet Union. Some goods will be available on the black market at astronomical prices. I’m not joking, we will relive a horrible era in history.”

**********

Exactly — I have heard numerous people talking about this lately, i.e., “our best days are behind us.” I certainly agree. And on Rush’s show today he mentioned some new poll out citing that more than 50% of those polled agreed as well. We are in big trouble, folks, seriously.


39 posted on 07/29/2009 11:11:42 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: TexasRepublic
That people do not see this dynamic coming, well, it scares me. Folks think "the way it is" is the way it will always be. They are wrong.
40 posted on 07/29/2009 11:12:40 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Good idea. I am partial to 7.62 X 54R and .38


41 posted on 07/29/2009 11:52:32 AM PDT by alarm rider (None shall be crowned who has not fought well. 2 Tim 2:5.)
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To: nina0113
I’ve got a couple of years’ supply - does anybody know the shelf life? It seems like it would be roughly “forever”.

An unused lightbulb will last for centuries (properly stored, i.e. no excessive vibration etc.). What kills it the fastest is switching them on and off (thermal stress). I've been using CFLs for roughly a decade now, as incandescents die on me like fruitflies (even quality "name brand" ones).
42 posted on 07/29/2009 3:42:33 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: billygoatgruff
My husband is a fan of the new energy bulbs. I am not. He put them in my clothes closet and now I seem to be leaving the house in mismatched clothes as I can’t tell the browns from the greens anymore. And they make my eyes hurt from trying to see as they are not bright enough. I keep buying the old bulbs and he can’t figure out why.

If you really can't tell your browns from your greens, you're likely buying chinese cr*p. The problem is cheap CFLs which have a fairly poor light spectrum, quality CFLs are way better (they cost a lot more, too), though far from perfect. BTW: Normal incandescents aren't perfect, either, their tone is far to warm, so on a sunny day, clothes look different outside, too.

Also, brightness is not an issue if you choose the proper wattage and shape for your needs.

Most of all, it's a matter of taste. I use CFLs because I don't mind the spectrum of the light, they last at least 5-10 times longer (I don't switch them on and off every five minutes) and thus save me serious dinero.

But especially a closet, when they are only used for 5 minutes at a time (probably a man's closet then), isn't the perfect environment for a CFL, it doesn't last much longer this way and doesn't achieve 80% energy savings.
43 posted on 07/29/2009 3:57:14 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78

Are there new energy bulbs for flourescent lighting? The school put a brand new set of about 30 or so in my classroom at the end of the year and something about them gave me, my assistant, and my students wracking headaches.

I’m going to put in my own periphereal lighting next year with floor lamps - unless I can get these changed out. I was told they were more environmentally friendly


44 posted on 07/29/2009 3:59:58 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Molly Pitcher

Typical of Libs to take something that works exceedingly well (like lightbulbs, health care, and cars) and totally screw them up to be hideous, inefficient, unrecognizable shadows of their former selves.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 4:33:51 PM PDT by luvEastTenn
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To: wolf78

“I’ve been using CFLs for roughly a decade now, as incandescents die on me like fruitflies (even quality “name brand” ones).”

Could that be “planned incandescence”? (couldn’t resist :)


46 posted on 07/29/2009 4:35:34 PM PDT by luvEastTenn
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To: CaliforniaCon

Yes, and we Boomers are the last generation to experience traditional America. But that won’t last long, as Obama and team have bull’s eyes on our chests.


47 posted on 07/29/2009 4:37:25 PM PDT by luvEastTenn
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To: MrB

And didn’t I hear that if you break one of these babies, HAZMAT has to be called? For a fun evening, buy up a bunch and smash them. Keep a govt. bureaucrat occupied.


48 posted on 07/29/2009 4:40:05 PM PDT by luvEastTenn
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To: wolf78

I have fancy light fixtures with blown-glass all through the house and the lightbulbs show - I use the little flame-looking ones.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 4:56:45 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: luvEastTenn
Could that be “planned incandescence”? (couldn’t resist :)

That and shoddy wiring *LOL.
50 posted on 07/30/2009 4:39:20 AM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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