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Perry raises possibility of states' rights showdown with White House over healthcare
star-telegram ^ | 7/27/09 | DAVE MONTGOMERY

Posted on 07/27/2009 11:35:53 AM PDT by Nachum

AUSTIN — Gov. Rick Perry, raising the specter of a showdown with the Obama administration, suggested Thursday that he would consider invoking states’ rights protections under the 10th Amendment to resist the president’s healthcare plan, which he said would be "disastrous" for Texas.

Interviewed by conservative talk show host Mark Davis of Dallas’ WBAP/820 AM, Perry said his first hope is that Congress will defeat the plan, which both Perry and Davis described as "Obama Care." But should it pass, Perry predicted that Texas and a "number" of states might resist the federal health mandate.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: perry; possibility; raises; states

1 posted on 07/27/2009 11:35:53 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


2 posted on 07/27/2009 11:36:36 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

It seems to me that a number of governors have discussed this. Rick is the only one to talk it up at this time. Rick, Rick, Rick. You’re driving me crazy. I’ve got whiplash.


3 posted on 07/27/2009 11:39:02 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Spread my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: Nachum

And if IIRC the “divisive” Gov Palin (according to David Frum) is supporting Gov Perry against Hutchinson. Sounds good to me.


4 posted on 07/27/2009 11:39:08 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Nachum

If Sarah Palin doesn’t run in 2012. Perry looks to be my runner up choice.

Secession may be the best way to fight socialism.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 11:39:41 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Nachum

And this out of Lincoln, NE: http://omaha.com/article/20090727/NEWS01/707279958


6 posted on 07/27/2009 11:39:41 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Good for Nebraska! Hope it passes. Thanks for the post.


7 posted on 07/27/2009 11:43:53 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: Nachum

I like his stance here on this issue.

However I didn’t/don’t like his stance on the mandatory Giardia vaccinations. I support the right of the parent to make such decisions. I agree that it’s seems to be a useful vaccine, maybe more research is needed, just that it seems too early to make it mandatory.

I also read that the drug company was pushing for it to become mandatory, with Gov. Goodhair, because other companies are working on HPV vaccines as well. Well, reasonably it seems, so they stand to make the most profit right now while they have a monopoly on the market.

I very much agree there has to be a limit on how much the government tells you what to do, and therefore with this I think there should be the right to opt out. Pretty soon they may be force vaccinating us for who-knows-what.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 11:46:26 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: K-oneTexas

The MSM will make Perry out to be some Ruby Ridge\Branch Davidian wacko..”Out of the mainstream”. I mean what’s a little thing like the Constitution, its a guideline not like we should actually adhere to it. Oh except when it comes to confiscating property of having the right to suck a baby out into a sink, then we have some regular Madisons and Jeffersons on the left.


9 posted on 07/27/2009 11:50:13 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: US Navy Vet

Thanks for that. I just put it up on my website too.


10 posted on 07/27/2009 11:54:42 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Put up or shut up.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by wny
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To: Welcome2thejungle
Secession may be the best way to fight socialism

Considering the current situation with vote fraud and blatant disregard for Constitutional restrictions on power,

it may be the ONLY way to preserve individual liberty.

12 posted on 07/27/2009 12:00:18 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Nachum

It’s probably going to have to go quite a bit farther than a showdown, Governor Perry.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 12:03:47 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Clara Lou

It seems to me that a number of governors have discussed this. Rick is the only one to talk it up at this time. Rick, Rick, Rick. You’re driving me crazy. I’ve got whiplash.


Hang loose as the Aggie Yell Leader will bounce you around depending upon the direction of the wind. He’ll keep moving to the right until the election is over then it’s back to business as usual.


14 posted on 07/27/2009 12:04:00 PM PDT by deport
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To: All

ATTENTION FELLOW TEXANS:

Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over Obama’s health care bill (Vanity)
7/23/09 | Cowtowney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51

Get after Perry, Texans. Burn up his switch board and fax!
Let him know we don’t want Obama DeathCare.

Say no to Obama’s DeathCare.
Send a message; DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS healthcare!
No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos. You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!

Join organizations who fight ObamaCare.

This is a good organization:
The Alliance of Texans Against Government Controlled Healthcare:
http://www.notintexas.org/

office (972) 466-2915
fax (972) 466-2965
toll-free (866) 377-1300

From the website:
We are currently contacting Governor Rick Perry by fax and mail!

We have made it easy for you to help. Click here to display the letter and contact information.
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_rick_perry.htm

Petition to STOP government controlled healthcare in Texas
Read and sign the petition
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_to_Reps.htm

Print and sign the letter
(feel free to make changes if you wish)

Fax the letter to the fax numbers

Mail a hard copy to the addresses

Call their offices

Dear Governor Perry,

On March 30, 2009 the Texas House of Representatives passed HCR 50 affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.

You have publicly supported this bill, and stated that attorney generals from all over the union could be getting ready to sue the US Government.

We are asking you to take the lead.

We are asking you to order the Texas Attorney General to publicly begin working on a law suit under Article IV, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

We are asking you to protect the citizens of Texas that we will not stand for government controlled healthcare in our state.

Under your leadership we can effectively kill the proposal of this administration and allow Texas to be a state free from socialism and collectivism.

Be the voice of reason in the national debate and allow Texans the ability to solve the problems of our state.

Thank you,

(Signature Date)

Lookup your state representatives

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or google ‘free fax’

Contacting Rick Perry

Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-2000
Fax: (512) 463-1849

Washington Office:
122 C St., NW, Ste. 200
Washington, DC 20001
Phone: (202) 638-3927
Fax: (202) 628-1943

Contact Budget Planning and Policy

Address:1100 San Jacinto
Austin, Texas 78701
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975
Gregory S. Davidson
Constituent Communication Division Director and
Executive Clerk to the Governor
Phone: (512) 463-1873

Office of the General Counsel
Department Mailing Address
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, TX 78711
Phone: 512.463.2000
Fax: 512.463.1932

Press Secretary
Allison Castle, Press Secretary
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1826
Fax: (512) 463-1847

Contact Texas Health Care Policy Council
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975

Sign up. Become a member.
Sign petition against Obamacare!
See member interview with Cavuto!

____________________

From ‘Texans Against Government Controlled health Care’
http://www.notintexas.org/

To all Texas elected officials:

“Don’t Mess with Texas” has been a proud motto in the Lone Star State. Now with Government controlled socialized healthcare appearing inevitable, we say “NOT IN TEXAS!” We ask our elected officials to cite the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as the reason why Texas rejects and will not accept the U.S. Government takeover of our healthcare system!

The 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

States’ rights, in the United States, is political doctrine advocating the strict limitation of the prerogatives of the federal government to those powers explicitly assigned to it in the Constitution of the United States, and reserving to the states all other powers not explicitly forbidden them. The doctrine of states’ rights has been the cause of bitter controversy at several periods in U.S. history.

The impending death of free market healthcare is an important issue that will again cause bitter controversy.

If the cause of defending our free market healthcare is a worthy cause, we in Texas must stand up and say: “NOT IN TEXAS”.

We in Texas will not stand idly by and allow the U.S. Federal Government to eliminate our free market healthcare system by incrementally changing and ultimately replacing it with a Government controlled socialized Healthcare system.

“NOT IN TEXAS”

Where are the Texas politicians?

The Alliance of Texans against Government Controlled Healthcare is insisting upon the immediate action of all Texas Politicians. Tell the U.S. Government: Government controlled healthcare may be adopted in other states, but…NOT IN TEXAS.

Tell the U.S. Government that Government Controlled Healthcare will never be allowed in Texas. Texans still believe in individual freedom and individual responsibility.

The saving of our free market healthcare system is one of the most important tasks ever to face Texas.

When are we going to hear Texas politicians saying: “The Government Controlled Socialized Healthcare stops at the Texas border!”

The Texas citizens are waiting to hear from you. We don’t have much time. President Obama wants a healthcare bill out by August 1st.

Tell the news media loud and clear: “NOT IN TEXAS”

We hope to see and hear your stand in the media in the next days to come.

P.S. Once Texas politicians make their stand, you will see other states standing up for State’s rights. Let the Lone Star state of Texas stand first.

.

From Texans Against Government Controlled Health Care

http://www.notintexas.org/

Facts about the 10th Amendment:

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.

Why Texans should fight National Healthcare:

When all of America’s top health insurers and providers met at the White House this week and pledged to save $2 trillion over the next decade in health costs, they were pledging to sabotage our medical care. The blunt truth, which everybody (the politicians and healthcare providers) agreed to keep quiet, is that the only way to reduce these costs is to ration healthcare, thereby destroying our system. http://www.notintexas.org/Front_4.htm

>Cutting Doctors’ fees will reduce access. Your doctor may not accept the government health plan. Congress is wanting to cut Medicare fees by 21 percent. Cuts in Medicare reimbursements will spill into the government health plan and ultimately limit the number of doctors and hospitals that will accept the government plan.

>Much like the HMO’s of the 80’s your doctor access will be restricted to the few doctors who will accept the socialized plan.

>Limiting the availability of doctors and hospitals will have many devastating effects. Most threatening are:

>Over crowding waiting rooms

Backlog of medical testing i.e. CAT scans, MRI, PET scans etc...

>Rationing of Health Care

>Reduction of quality college students choosing medicine as a profession.

>With our aging population, quality health care providers needed now more than ever.

>We can pay with our lives. The federal government want us to believe they can “mandate away” 2 trillion dollars of medical expenses. We have learned from our friends from the north (the Canadians), the best way to reduce cost is to ration care.

>Government bureaucrats will pour over data and decide what the best means of care will be for the largest number of patients.
If medical condition differs from the government guidelines, it will NOT be paid by the government.
Should your doctor(s) decide the government allowed treatment is not for you, your doctors hands will be tied. If you don’t have the financial means to pay for your treatment elsewhere, it could cost you your life.
In Canada, colonoscopies are rationed for colon cancer. Canada’s colon cancer rate is 25 percent higher than in the U.S. even though Canada’s population is smaller.

>We know from history, once a government program of this nature is passed, whether it is a total failure or not, it will NEVER be rescinded.

Solution:

Texans can reject, and refuse to pay for, the federal government health plan. Texas will attract the BEST trained, MOST experienced doctors (and upcoming doctors) in the country. Texas will be the envy of every state in the union.

The truth about government controlled healthcare:
Government healthcare is failing miserably in Massachusetts
If you think a government run healthcare system can work and be more affordable, read this... http://www.notintexas.org/Front_5.htm

Article from the Washington Examiner 1/11/09:
“Obama’s health policy advisers should take a good look at the smoldering wreckage in the Bay State before trying to impose any such “universal coverage” on the rest of the nation.” Link http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Universal_coverage_First_look_at_the_disaster_in_Massachusetts_011109.html

More interesting reading - Free Market Cure
http://www.freemarketcure.com/

Medicare - What is all the fuss about?
Medicare (and health insurance) is a political football. The aging baby boomers are currently contributing more tax dollars to the Medicare Trust Fund than they ever will again in our lifetime. In 2011, the first baby boomers will become eligible for Medicare, and many of them will retire, no longer contributing to the tax base.
Instead, they will become consumers of the Medicare system and begin to tap into the very funds they contributed to Medicare for more than 40 years. Within a few decades, we will suffer massive deficits caused by Medicare, Medicaid (welfare—long term care) and Social Security.
There is simply not a way to finance the Medicare system long term by raising taxes. Even if taxes were raised by 50 percent of the current rate, there still would not be enough money to fund the Medicare Part A Trust Fund for the long term.
The current Part A trust is expected to pay more than it takes in by 2019, and some are estimating this will begin to occur as early as 2016.

HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.

Take Action! Before it is too late!


15 posted on 07/27/2009 12:20:48 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: deport
I've watched that very same Rick feint right at election time, but never govern there, for about two decades now. He's not fooling me, but KBH is probably even squishier.

If you took the conservative parts of both of them and glued them both together, you still wouldn't have an entire conservative person, when it was all said and done.

16 posted on 07/27/2009 12:21:34 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: willgolfforfood

I guess the real advantage for Texas is that the founders ensured the Gov. had minimal powers and thus the legislature which is closer to the people was more influencial. I think 12 years on the job is enough. Go find another teat to suck on.


17 posted on 07/27/2009 12:39:28 PM PDT by deport
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To: Welcome2thejungle

I love Texas! I agree, secession is really the only answer I see. The liberal fascists are never going to give up their march toward international totalitarian marxism. I hope that we can all decide to peacefully separate and start a new nation that restores the Constitution, and leave the lib-nazis to their coastal enclaves. But the question of whether it will be peaceful or not is up to the liberal fascists. The way Obama is fomenting race and class hatred, I am pessimistic.


18 posted on 07/27/2009 1:00:23 PM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: gorilla_warrior

Texas may one day soon become an independent republic again. And who could blame them? The Lone Star State indeed! Unfortunately, my state (CA) is part of the problem, not the solution.


19 posted on 07/27/2009 1:06:38 PM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: pburgh01

Very true.


20 posted on 07/27/2009 3:15:35 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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