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Weigel is making it his life mission to fight for Obama. Wonder why this 'libertarian' has such a vested interest that his entire career now is anti-birtherism.
1 posted on 07/27/2009 9:25:01 AM PDT by pissant
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2 posted on 07/27/2009 9:28:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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I really wish we would focus on the terrible job this POTUS is doing, not on a pipe dream conspiracy theory that is just that...a pipe dream.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/23/does-this-kill-the-obama-birth-certificate-myth/

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Obama_1961_birth_announcement_from_Honolulu_Advertiser

http://washingtonindependent.com/52625/mythbusting-the-honolulu-newspaper-birth-announcment

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


3 posted on 07/27/2009 9:30:42 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: pissant

Oh this a good find...a GREAT FIND...because it shows just why a short form isn’t good enough...

You can’t get special privileges with the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands by just using the short form..but hey..it is good enough to become President???

Anyone found a list of the “Special privileges?


4 posted on 07/27/2009 9:30:42 AM PDT by RummyChick
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must see from Floyd Brown

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697


5 posted on 07/27/2009 9:31:31 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: pissant
even after Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign (quietly) found the rumors easily to debunk.

They didn't find them "easy" to debunk. They found them easy to ignore. As they found nearly every chink in Hussein's armor easy to ignore.

I might be willing to believe that Juan McAmnesty seriously looked at the BC issue *IF* he had evidenced any interest in *ANYTHING* about Hussein that was weak on.

Obama has/had a cornucopia of soft spots that McCain openly refused to even address, much less exploit. So, there is no reason I should believe that McCain gave a crap about the BC, anymore than anything else.

6 posted on 07/27/2009 9:33:29 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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"I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no presidents!"

8 posted on 07/27/2009 9:35:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Which “Willie Horton” Ad?

The Al Gore Ad that actually mentioned Willie Horton, or the RNC ad with the Prison and revolving door with racially mixed prisoners that did not mention Willie Horton, or a the third add;or the compilation of the two made by Michael Moore with an added (and incorrect in the original version) caption?

Which “Willie Horton” ad?


10 posted on 07/27/2009 9:40:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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I know the Willie Horton ad has an undeserved, poor public image. Brown also wrote "Slick Willie": Why America Cannot Trust Bill Clinton. Here's one of the four reviews the guardians at Amazon have allowed:
When I got this book in 1993, I found it boring and didn't read more than about five pages. I ran across it on my bookshelf again and read it. Floyd Brown really knew what he was talking about! Now, I can see how what he said has been played out in the past several years, and I wonder what will be next. I wish more people had read this book and listened then.
ML/NJ
11 posted on 07/27/2009 9:40:37 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Weigal’s one man Obama juggling act continues...lol

Ping!


12 posted on 07/27/2009 9:42:35 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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The birther story should be dead. its a waste of effort.

Does anyone really think that a 19 year old would fly to
Mombasa to give birth, then return straightaway to Hawaii
to announce it in the papers?

Harping on this is stupid and a waste of time. he was not
born in Kenya; this would have come out years ago.
the courts have already spoken; they won’t hear it.

Go after Obamas record and utterances, there is the ammunition it takes to dethrone him. The birth issue is a
stupid side show without legs. It will go nowhere.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 9:43:26 AM PDT by rahbert
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Questions about Obama’s birth will not go away. All the secrecy, document purges, sealing of records and public information gone missing from multiple sources about Obama’s history only adds to the question of why. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to cover up anything about Obama’s past starting with his birth records and they would not be doing this without some reason.


14 posted on 07/27/2009 9:44:19 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: pissant

Ok here is a theory.

To preface what follows, I was born in Hawaii in 1969. I have both my long form BC and my COLB from that state.

My COLB was printed for me at my mothers request in a letter that was received (and confirmed by computer records by the Vital Stats office in the Hawaiian Dept of Health in Honolulu) and my COLB that I received should have had the date of Mar.6 2000. It states Mar. 6 2007 (!).

Stick with me through what follows.

Lets just say that in 2007 when Barry was really getting into running for President that he was facing some questions from the black community, which was indeed the case. The question in the black community was this: Is he black enough? Barry is 50% white, 44% Arab and 6% Black from the breakdown that I have repeatedly seen. So the black community isn’t sure they can support this guy because he is half white, and we have all heard the condescension that Black people have given to mulatto children. Certainly in my lifetime I can remember some rather racist black kids riding the mulatto kids I knew. Barry is most definitely Mulatto.

Ok so he has a problem with convincing the Black community to support him, and he NEEDS their support, and that of ACORN, the two go hand in hand.

So, Barry goes back to Hawaii on vacation, visits grandma. Grandma is VERY well connected in Honolulu. You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything. With connections, you can do just about anything, a favor is a favor, and Grandma likely had more than just a few to pull in. Thats just how the islands work. I am not going to try and explain it more than that, it would take too long. But I have connected family on Kauai to this day, so let’s just stipulate that I know what I am talking about.

Back to the story. Barry needs to solidly convince a lot of Black people that he has the creds to run from the Black community, to counter his detractors on the whole Black enough issue.

A COLB stating African would do that pretty convincingly. Grandma pulls a few strings and gets Barry a COLB that states African, and is actually a real document from the State of Hawaii because it indeed came from there, but under some false circumstances. Mainly that his race was African, when clearly it wasn’t, he had a White Mother. If anything, original COLB would have said Negro or Black. That might not be enough to counter the white half of his genetic make up in the Black Community, but stating “AFRICAN” WOULD. But I don’t think hid long form says Negro or Black, I think it classifies him as Caucasian.

So it is a “legit” document that was printed under false circumstances. I am theorizing that it was printed by someone in the Vital Statistics Office, but as my OWN COLB shows, by the messed up date, that anyone who knew how to do it could have printed one up with the information of choice, then put the seal on it folded it, and sent it on its way. The Date stamp on the Fact Check Document has the date stamp above Onaka’s name, which could only have been printed in the snail mail order room, like mine is. It is ALSO a separate room. There are three printing Machines in that office which could have been used, the front desk, which has a date stamper to the Side of Onaka’s stamp (also printed by the machines at the same time as the rest of the Document is printed), and the internet order area, which also has the stamp to the side, and the oldest machine, which has the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp. Now I know this because while I was confirming the order date of my own COLB I did a little digging, and the clerk was very informative and helpful. Obama got a COLB that was printed in the Mail Order’s separate room. If it was ordered at the front desk, then it would have been printed there, not in the snail mail room, unless someone was going to change some of the info on it and wanted to conceal that...

Now is the date on the back of the fact check document on or about the same as one of his vacations to the Islands? I was told that it can take up to a month to process orders, but I think he likely got it handed to him on or about the same time he or Grandma ordered it. In reality that doesn’t matter, Grandma could have pulled strings at any time and had it mailed to him.

Now, because the COLB that Barry has is legit looking, all he has to do is make sure his Long Form Birth Certificate NEVER sees the light of day, and that his school records and financial aid applications never see the light of day either. Why? Because his Long form would say that he is Caucasian, and his school records/financial aid, under his Barry Soetoro name show him to be a foreigner from Indonesia. I could go into the whole Immigration status thing, which I do think has some validity to it, and certainly has not been looked at by a Court AS OF YET, so I will leave that alone for now, it could well be he is a citizen, but because of dual citizenship issues, he is not a Natural Born citizen.

But I digress.

OK so he now has his Black enough Street creds, and a “legit” COLB, he should be in the clear right? Only if you assume that the COLB he has was gotten in 2007 was 100% legit, and I have proof that a COLB can have incorrect information in it - Because MINE DOES.

Some time ago, I remember reading that Barry’s lawyer that had seen the document said that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but that his records contained information that would be “embarrassing”. Is Caucasian embarrassing enough? Is lying to the Black Community enough? Is gaining their support with a lie embarrassing enough? Do you think it possible that once this information became public, with the release of a Long Form BC stating he was Caucasian, that the black community would become apathetic to him in part or in whole?

Add to this, Barry describes his grandmother as the rock of his family, as well as describing her as “afraid of Black men”, do you think that she, with her connections, her strength of charachter, and a wayward 17 year old daughter having shown some poor decision making in the recent past from Grandma’s perspective, could have required that her daughter state the race of her child as accurately being predominately white, which he is? I do indeed think so.

Folks, I think that Barry may well have been born in Hawaii, solid evidence of some other place being missing, that he was registered with the office of Vital Statistics as being Caucasian. He states in his book that he HAD all his birth records at one time, why would he need a new COLB in 2007 if that’s the case? Because he needed one that would gain him the support of the Black Community, and indeed they got a real live “African” even better!!

So if this theory is true, do you think that come 2011 that the black community is going to be as fired up about their lying Mulatto pretending to “African” status? Ummm hummmm.

Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? As the messiah? As the ONE? I don’t think so. I could be wrong on that... But I don’t think so. Perceptions matter sometimes, and there is a world of difference in perceiving Barry as African and White. All the difference in the world to the Black Community, enough to win the Presidency.

Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.

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Tear the theory apart please!


34 posted on 07/27/2009 11:09:22 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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