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Look Here to See What’s in the Health Care Bill: CHILLING!
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Posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:19 AM PDT by keep your powder dry

Take a look at what actually is in the Health Care bill. Obama makes disingenuous comments like "You'll still keep your doctor" or "You'll keep your existing health care." He is either lying to us or he has no idea what is in it. Take a peek at the full report, or look at some of the highlights here:

Pg 22 of the HC Bill mandates the Government will audit books of all employers that self insure . Can you imagine what that will do to small businesses? Every one will abandon “self insurance ” and go on Government insurance. So when Obama says that there will still be private health care, it’s simply a lie: this mandate will force employers to abandon their private plans.

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1 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:19 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – a Government committee (good luck with that!) will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE WILL BE RATIONED! (We all knew this, because health care is rationed in Canada and Britain, but Obama kept saying it would not be).

Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

Pg 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accts for election funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations (read: ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Government will create an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Government control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Government will ration your Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Government mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation for illegal aliens.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Government will use groups, i.e. ACORN & Americorps, to sign up individuals for Government HC plan.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP
members - your Health care WILL be rationed.

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Government Monopoly.

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Government will tell YOU what you can earn.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE.

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k who don’t provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records.

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that.

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors – doesn’t matter what specialty – will all be paid the same.

PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally, value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131Government mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

PG 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion - Government will mandate hospitals cannot expand.

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures which of course forces health care rationing.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc., forcing people into Government plan.

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. HC by phone.

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. Think Senior Citizens end of life prodding.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients’ health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services/Non profit orgs. (ACORN Medical Services here?)

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION. 1 monthly payment to a community-based organization. (Like ACORN?)

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Government into our marriages.

Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services. You’d better speak up now before you are on the “advanced care consultation” list.


2 posted on 07/27/2009 8:15:15 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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King Obama and his elite corrupt crew of jackasses dumping another load on America. Trillions for what? Government health care is not the issue, Government killing private insurance companies and controlling more of us Americans is! And the health care that will be left for us will be a living hell.
3 posted on 07/27/2009 8:18:31 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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>PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that.

And how does THAT work?


4 posted on 07/27/2009 8:21:05 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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government killing people, not just private insurance

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients’ health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 8:21:21 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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it’s simply a lie: this mandate will force employers to abandon their private plans.

It’s even simpler than that. Employers will simply abandon their small businesses. After all one objective of Marxism is to eliminate the ‘merchant class’. They’re just too hard to ‘control’. You end up with the elite and the workers, a better fit for ‘central planning’.


6 posted on 07/27/2009 8:21:55 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: OneWingedShark

“Soylent Green is people!!!”


7 posted on 07/27/2009 8:22:27 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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If there is one Obama is really good at, it’s lying and his health care explanation is full of them.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 8:23:14 AM PDT by jakota (®)
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Pg 22 of the HC Bill mandates the Government will audit books of all employers that self insure . Can you imagine what that will do to small businesses?

Small businesses typically don't self insure. One job switched to self insurance plus a catastrophic policies when it got to around 150 or 200 people. Essentially if I went to the doctor or got a prescription the company paid the bill itself rather than having the insurance company pay it. I don't know how catastrophic it had to be before the catastrophic insurance kicked in - appendectomy for a few thousand bucks or cancer for tens of thousands?

9 posted on 07/27/2009 8:23:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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What part has the area where it states that it will be just the uninsured covered by obama care, what about the rest that have insurance from employyer. thanks someone is asking me and i want to be correct. thanks


10 posted on 07/27/2009 8:24:45 AM PDT by mel
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Don’t forget page 16, no new enrollment into HMO’s.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 8:30:38 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: keep your powder dry

Great post. thanks!


13 posted on 07/27/2009 8:34:07 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: keep your powder dry; wagglebee; 8mmMauser

**government killing people, not just private insurance

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients’ health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.**


14 posted on 07/27/2009 8:35:39 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: keep your powder dry

He is either lying to us or he has no idea what is in it.

Oh, he knows what’s in it. Sort of leaves the LYING part, doesn’t it!


15 posted on 07/27/2009 8:35:53 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: keep your powder dry
HEALTHCARE 1

16 posted on 07/27/2009 8:36:31 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k who don’t provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.

A tad heavy handed - just a "tad".../s

17 posted on 07/27/2009 8:39:18 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Obama's a...leftist,too cozy with terrorist leaders and way beyond naivete..-BenStein)
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Just sent to Dick Durbin: (not that it will do much good)

Dear Senator Durbin:

A recent posting from "Family Matters" (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3815,css.print/pub_detail.asp) point out several troubling features of the healthcare reform being debated in Washington.

It has become very confusing, possibly by design, that there are multiple House committee versions, some 'framework' language being discussed from Senators, then the language used by the White House to describe what the President desires.

The Democrats and the media have censored and screened nearly all of the Republican ideas, excluded Republicans from most meetings then claim, with the support of the media, that "Republicans have no ideas". This is disingenuous.

The "chart" used to describe the system have been roundly banned from discussion, and by the House rules, members cannot even send it out to their constituents. This chart was based on the concepts and language from the Democrat language - if it is wrong, correct it, but don't ban it!

The President has stated many times that "you can keep your plan", and "you can keep your doctor". These statements are not only false but demeaning. I should NEVER have to check with the government for this highly personal kind of decision.

The plan is highly flawed. I urge you to fight it.

If this is passed, our country will not even be a shadow of what the founders sought, that is, limit government, provide God-given freedoms, and provision of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". What is being presented will require individuals to tell the government, via community organizations like ACORN, as to how our lives will end. It is none of the government's business.

Sincerely and respectfully,

NNNNNNNN

18 posted on 07/27/2009 8:40:34 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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love to know where that mighty bastion of all things elderly is sitting right now.....very quiet, suspiciously so....

remember when even the mention of changing SS brought the paid brigades of seniors out attacking the congressmen?

yet now, the govt will ration their care, require death conseling, and connect up to their bank accounts, no middle man needed, and yet nothing from them....NOTHING.....

where do we move folks?...how do we perserve what we have?.....

19 posted on 07/27/2009 8:41:43 AM PDT by cherry
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Imagine that, cancer survival rates are higher in the US, then in socialized health care systems in europe...

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/561737


20 posted on 07/27/2009 8:50:30 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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