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Could the Holy Grail rest in Ayrshire?...
The Times ^ | 19th July 2009 | Julia Belgutay

Posted on 07/23/2009 7:31:34 AM PDT by the scotsman

New research debunks Rosslyn legend and finds Ayrshire had highest concentration of Templar properties Ayrshire's Kilwinning is a possible location for the Grail

'It is notable as the home of Freemasonry in Scotland but Kilwinning may have a more illustrious claim to fame, as the resting place of the Holy Grail.

According to new research by AJ Morton, an authority on masonic history, the town housed a community of Knights Templar in the 14th century who may have possessed the cup used by Christ at the Last Supper.

According to Christian mythology, Joseph of Arimathea received the Grail from an apparition of Jesus and entrusted it to the Knights Templar, who brought it to Britain. Some accounts suggest it was buried in a secret vault in Rosslyn chapel, Midlothian.

However, Morton’s research suggests that, if the Grail exists, it is more likely to have been buried in Kilwinning or Irvine. He has unearthed land records showing 200 Templar properties in southwest Scotland in the 14th century, 30 of them in the Cunningham district of Ayrshire.'

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: grail
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1 posted on 07/23/2009 7:31:34 AM PDT by the scotsman
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2543727/Expert-says-Holy-Grail-is-in-Kilwinning.html


2 posted on 07/23/2009 7:32:10 AM PDT by the scotsman
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BTTT


3 posted on 07/23/2009 7:33:32 AM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: the scotsman

Whatever happened to the supposed ‘unveiling’ of the Ark in Kenya recently? Did it ever happen?


4 posted on 07/23/2009 7:33:41 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Impeach the sumbeech)
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To: the scotsman

5 posted on 07/23/2009 7:34:22 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (CITIZENS OF LIBERTY! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE EVIL BEAST, OBAMUNISM!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
No, and it was not Kenya, it was Ethiopia. At any rate, Graham Hancock in The Sign and the Seal covered this back in .... 1992.
6 posted on 07/23/2009 7:39:21 AM PDT by cranked
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To: the scotsman

A Grail? We’ve already got one - it’s very nice!


7 posted on 07/23/2009 7:39:27 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Refugee from the World of Doomed Olsens)
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To: the scotsman

I would imagine it could be anywhere.


8 posted on 07/23/2009 7:41:56 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: OB1kNOb

Arthur: “We seek the Holy Grail, have you seen it?
French: “We have already got one! It’s varrrrry nice”!


9 posted on 07/23/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: the scotsman

The Holy Grail was never lost. It is now known as the Sancta Caliz, and is in the Cathedral of Valencia, Spain. That Cathedral was reclaimed from the moors (”black knights”) during the 13th -century reconquista. The legend of eternal life and magical powers come from, respectively, a Moorish misunderstanding of the Christian doctrine of the Resurrection for those who receive the blood of Christ, and a series of paintings in southern France (where Graal is a local dialect’s word for “chalice,” wherein the chalice is shown with a halo, misinterpreted as a magical glow.

(Interestingly, at the time of the Reconquista of Valencia, there was a British King named Arthur, living in exile in Brittany, France, ruling the British-held continental lands, including the island of Avalon. British history recognizes John as rightful king, but the Catholic Church recognized Arthur.)


10 posted on 07/23/2009 7:43:13 AM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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bttt


11 posted on 07/23/2009 7:43:42 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: the scotsman
OK, who left the illuminated Grail sign turned on again?!?!?

Naughty, naughty Zut!

12 posted on 07/23/2009 7:44:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: the scotsman
I thought everyone
switched to believing the "grail"
was a metaphor

for the Magdalene
(holding the "bloodline" and stuff).
Now we've gone back to

thinking it's a cup
a real cup like a wine glass?
That is kind of dull . . .

13 posted on 07/23/2009 7:44:40 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Isnt there a punishment for doing that?


14 posted on 07/23/2009 7:45:46 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: dangus

Self bump to find later


15 posted on 07/23/2009 7:46:45 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Uhhh, that was from HIGHLY reliable WND. Never happened. Go figure.


16 posted on 07/23/2009 7:47:28 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: the scotsman
Didn't the Templars all move quietly to Switzerland? The Holy Grail is probably sitting in some Swiss Bank Vault.
17 posted on 07/23/2009 7:47:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (Conservatives: the "niche market," consisting of about half the population" - David Warren)
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To: AnAmericanMother; the scotsman
Naughty, naughty Zut!

I volunteer to do the spanking. And then... /g

18 posted on 07/23/2009 7:48:52 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: reagan_fanatic
Whatever happened to the supposed ‘unveiling’ of the Ark in Kenya recently? Did it ever happen?

Didn't happen. The leader of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims the press misquoted himl, and that he never promised to reveal it.

Related thread:
The Ark is not going to be revealed, says Gebremedhin [Orthodox leader: I never promised to show it]

19 posted on 07/23/2009 7:49:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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I will e mail this to my minister who recently arrived here from Glasgow.


20 posted on 07/23/2009 7:50:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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