Posted on 07/21/2009 12:07:30 PM PDT by bgill
Sssssstartravler troll to the end.
Welcome back socialist troll.
Well, I believe that Obama was born in Kenya! Also, adoption by Soetoro to Indonesia would render him not a natural born citizen. Obama doesn’t appear to be an American citizen by attending Occidental College as a foreign student. Back to square one, Obama is not a natural born citizen since BOTH of his parents are not Americans- regardless of where he was born. His father was a Kenyan (a British Colony).
Disregard the defenses posed by the left.
Okay, time to give the Free Republic definition of “troll” again... LOL...
That’s a good working definition for anyone on Free Republic... :-)
Well, I did have that disclaimer “that I can recall” in there so I’m covered. I think I remember something on FR months ago about CAA and the controversy surrounding his birth. I’m also aware that that constitutional requirement was put there specifically to bar one man from running for President early in our history so it’s origins are tainted in that respect. Nevertheless, the requirement is there in the constitution.
You are wasting your time arguing with ST, he/she is a well known troll here even made the list of known trolls recently.
You’re saying the US doesn’t recognize adoptions of supposed US citizens? Then for that matter why recognize marriages?
You said — You are wasting your time arguing with ST, he/she is a well known troll here even made the list of known trolls recently.
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Yeah..., a list in your own imagination, and not one by Free Republic Admins... LOL...
No disclaimer needed; my intent was to edify rather than admonish ;-)
Article II section 1 No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Fathers of adopted children are still the legal father even after a divorce. They would still be legally required to pay child support. I had a friend that adopted his wife’s child from her first marriage. They later divorced and she told him he did not have to pay support for her first child. Ten years later the courts awarded her a $40,000 judgment for back support.
I don’t know if anyone has shown the proof that he was formally adopted ANYWHERE. I think people have been going on Michelle’s supposed statement to API that went something like this:
“There is no shame in being adopted by a stepfather”
There may have been clues in the divorce papers.
ST makes a good point that the controversy is not likely to ever be resolved since the only way to do so would be to produce a birth certificate. If there is no US birth certificate then it can’t be produced. Any birth certificate produced from Kenya would be laughed at as a fake and a forgery unless produced by the govt of Kenya and that’s not going to happen. The only outcome that could ever resolve the issue would be for Obama to produce a legitimate US birth certificate but he doesn’t have to. The courts will side with him all day long.
I’ve been researching Obama’s background since March 2008, and I’ve never come across any statement made by Barack Obama stating that he was adopted by his stepdad, Lolo Soetoro.
That information concerning the adoption is surmised because of a surviving record from the first school he attended in Indonesia. This record states that the student, Barry Soetoro, is an Indonesian citizen, he is Muslim, and his father is Lolo Soetoro.
At that time, Indonesia was a police state and non-citizens were not allowed to attend public school. The government sent officials out to regularly check paperwork at the schools for this purpose. Bribes could be paid to officials so they would look the other way, but Lolo Soetoro was not wealthy and it is doubtful he paid money to get his stepson/son into public school.
There is evidence that a U.S. congressional representative, a Democrat, traveled to Indonesia before the election in 2008 and bought up all records pertaining to Barry Soetoro and/or Barack Obama. That first school’s record just happenned to be missed.
Obama wants to hide his background in the worst kind of way.
From what I understand the divorce was never completed, as Lolo Soetoro died before it could be finalized.
You said — Unless... someone challenges the candidate to offer proof. The candidate is then obligated to provide evidence that he is in fact qualified to run. I don’t see a loophole
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Well, you’re not used to Catch-22 situations, then... LOL...
I sign a legal statement and have it notarized and I present it to the Secretary of State and it says, I am qualified per the Constitution...
Thus, I have met the requirements of the Constitution...
NOW..., if you can prove that I’ve lied — you’ve “got me”... But, if you can’t — I’m qualified...
You have an excellent point and an excellent plan. The best states to try this in are ones with two R houses and and R Gov. I suspect it will be vetoed by most D govs even if passed, and that the D leaders will prevent votes or vote down these bills in chambers they control.
Yes, there were clues in the divorce papers filed by Stanley Anne D. O. Soetoro in the State of Hawaii.
She mentions their then minor daughter and their son who was then over the age of majority.
That’s a perfect explanation of the Catch-22 and why state laws (that I menion) will *crack that one wide open*....
Thanks...
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