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Shoot it down: Senate must kill amendment that would dangerously gut gun laws
NY Daily News ^ | July 21, 2009 | Unsigned

Posted on 07/21/2009 11:37:48 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright

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To: Vaquero

I’d suggest that the title of the opinion piece should be enough of a BARF ALERT. That plus it is from NYC, it’s about those EVIL guns in the hands of “the People” should be enough of a BARF ALERT for anyone. :)

Toward FREEDOM


21 posted on 07/21/2009 12:34:45 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: OneWingedShark

WHY THEY WANT OUR GUNS!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4

DISARMED GERMAN JEWS AND THE HOLOCAUST!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9q9sxJFnA

“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that we will never need it until they come to take it away.” Thomas Jefferson

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”
Sigmund Freud

Now we know why most Dimocrats fear our guns.


22 posted on 07/21/2009 12:36:45 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (ELECTION 2010 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF OUR LIFETIME! If you have to ask why, UR part of the problem!)
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To: Joe Boucher

>Only if those interpreting the law does so properly without activism. I do not trust judges, politicians, or govt. in general.

Sadly, I agree.
We as a people may be far closer to “taking the law into their own hands” than many people realize.... I for one would not convict a squad of marines bursting into that court that declared Murtha’s national-tv speech (condemning the Haidatha marines) protected and killing the judges.

Murtha is NOT a federal employee... show me where he can be fired. Murtha was not acting in the execution of his office, he is a legislator, not a member of the judiciary. Third, he made the pronouncement of their guilt w/o trial OR investigation. Fourth, the crimes he [falsely] accused them of validated our enemy’s claims. (Last I read “AID OR COMFORT” would adequately describe that.)

I believe Murtha is a traitor, and I believe that the court that both denied the soldier’s rights of redress and supported/defended this traitor are, themselves, traitors.

They should be hung as traitors, IMO.


23 posted on 07/21/2009 12:44:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

“World’s safest big city”??? Tokyo? Singapore?

“Saved thousands of lives by enforcing gun laws”?? Proof, please!


24 posted on 07/21/2009 12:45:33 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Neil E. Wright

We New Yorkers KNOW there is no such thing as a law abiding American. (Except, of course for city and state employees.) So we can’t afford to let anybody have a gun. (Except, of course, members of M-13 and any black street gang thug in town. Important voting blocs, you see.) So this dangerous senate amendment must be defeated. (Or sure democrat voters might get blown away by honest, republican leaning dopes!)

Signed,

Your non-biased editors.


25 posted on 07/21/2009 12:46:50 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Neil E. Wright

MY GOD...think of the carnage if law abiding American citizens were permitted to carry guns!! PLEASE, follow the lead of your city/state democrat party members. Keep guns where they belong. In the hands of M-13 and black street gangs.


26 posted on 07/21/2009 12:49:16 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: OneWingedShark

Murtha has crapped on a whole lot of folks. He is not alone in doing so.

I am surprised that you have not seen some of these folks who he and others have screwed over or tried to screw over have not gone on the war path.
Personally I of course am not advocating that but I would cheer it.


27 posted on 07/21/2009 12:52:14 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Oldpuppymax

Like if you have a CCW, your first thought is, “How many people can I mow down today?”

Stupid.


28 posted on 07/21/2009 12:52:36 PM PDT by Califreak (I can't answer that in the abstract)
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To: Neil E. Wright

My response:

So tell me, dear anonymous editor, are you one of those who’d think it more “honorable” to see my wife lying raped and dead in an alley than to see her standing there explaining to a cop just how her attacker (likely with many prior convictions) happened to get all those bullet holes in him? Please explain that to me and to any and all folks who have LOST a loved one in similar circumstances, unable to defend themselves because the likes of YOU, who might have one of these “Elites-Only” permits, don’t care to see the riff-raff allowed to exercise their God-given NOT government-granted) right to protect themselves and/or their loved ones.

As a retired U.S. Marine, I spent my adult life protecting the Constitution from all its enemies, as well as standing between my countrymen and those who would do them harm. I have also come to realize that the most harm that my countrymen, my family, my loved ones suffer comes from elitist morons who buy the government lies about “people who own guns go crazy and kill others” without bothering to check actual FACTS. Also without bothering to read the Founding Documents of this nation and actually see for themselves what it’’s all about. You have yours; the rest of us can take a hike.

It’s attitudes like yours, like Chuckie Schumer, who DOES have an “Elites Only” permit, of course, and the others of your ilk, that made me vow NEVER to return to New York to live and never, EVER, visit or live in New York City. And I was born and raised upstate, in some of the prettiest country on the planet. Thanks a LOT, dear anonymous editor. Next time look at some real FACTS before you open your mouth or sit down at your keyboard. Maybe, just MAYBE, you’ll learn something. It could happen!


29 posted on 07/21/2009 12:53:02 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
New York has some of the strictest rules in the country

Save for their AWB, NFA, and open-carry prohibitions, those "strict rules" amount only to paperwork formalities. Once you jump thru all the hoops, you can own pretty much whatever you want, and carry pretty much wherever you want. Heck, you can carry a Serbu Super Shorty while imbibing Jack Daniels at a pub, so long as a few pieces of paper are in order.

30 posted on 07/21/2009 12:56:48 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: OneWingedShark
“A well regulated militia, being necessary the security of a free state; the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Too bad that's not a part of the Constitution or something, then the peoples preexisting right to self defense would affirmed, and you know we can't have THAT! /sarc
31 posted on 07/21/2009 1:03:20 PM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: ctdonath2

New York City does have strict gun laws, but somehow the super-rich (like Trump) can get around them.

New York State has more reasonable laws, but the “city” is the main problem.

The Daily News touts lives saved by police in enforcing gun laws. It’s like the jobs saved by 0 through his stimulus package: no one can really quantify this.


32 posted on 07/21/2009 1:04:15 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

New York gun laws are probably directly in violation of Federal statute, in that New York forbids transporting handguns by people from out-of-state. Federal law protects such transport if the gun is secured (as in a locked box in your car trunk) and is legal at your origin and destination.


33 posted on 07/21/2009 1:11:56 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

I was going to challenge that statement myself -

thousands of lives saved - PROVE IT.

It’s like my house, I have a cat to keep the elephants away.
There aren’t any elephants around, you say? See how good she is?


34 posted on 07/21/2009 1:13:33 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: paulcissa
What the Daily Fish-Wrap fails to mention is that firearms violations are the first thing to be plea-bargained away in NYC.

Well, see the point? They need more stuff to be illegal or they won't have any bargaining chips to blackmail people with. ;-)

35 posted on 07/21/2009 1:24:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Too many New Yorkers never really assimilated with American niceness and our Constitution. Some of them move to the West and push their big government policies along with their paradoxical disrespects against others they perceive to be peasants (Americans of American disposition). They should go back to their east European and northwest Asian countries of origin, IMO. ...nasty, voracious troublemakers.


36 posted on 07/21/2009 1:34:20 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

every state should have a guide published for NYC transplants.

it should start on page one:

1. We don’t care how you did it in NYC, if you liked it that much you should have stayed in NYC.

2. NYC needs to stay in NYC.

...


37 posted on 07/21/2009 1:37:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Neil E. Wright

facinating, the article because with an unsupported assumption that is essentially a lie put forth by the reporter.


38 posted on 07/21/2009 1:41:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
"every state should have a guide published for NYC transplants.

it should start on page one:

1. We don’t care how you did it in NYC, if you liked it that much you should have stayed in NYC.

2. NYC needs to stay in NYC.
"

Agreed, but they do hook up with the local organized criminals rather quickly. The rest of us have been too silent and need to change that.

After the American Revolution, my ancestors moved from New York State to Ohio in order to get away from the flood of incoming western European little bosses (Europe: monarchy/communism or fascism being the only choices in politics). Ohio has long since been part of New York, policy-wise. They even moved west from there long ago. Now, those foreign hordes are moving in all over the central part of our country and taking over.

Colorado is becoming a tree-worshiping, animal-worshiping, peasant-cheating outpost of Prussia. ...can't start a small business without being perceived as encroaching on some foreign (NY or CA) family's turf.


39 posted on 07/21/2009 2:01:30 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: longtermmemmory

There is one good thing about the paradigm, BTW. They require mortgages to move in and push us American peasants (landowners) around. :-)


40 posted on 07/21/2009 2:05:44 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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