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Program Cuts Car Insurance Rates, if Insurer Can Monitor Your Driving Habits
WOAI ^ | 7/21/09 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 07/21/2009 6:32:35 AM PDT by laotzu

Progressive Insurance Companies in Texas is launching a unique program in Texas which may save you money on your car insurance, but has civil libertarians worried, 1200 WOAI news reports.

Progressive is offering discounts starting today to motorists who are willing to have a device placed into their cars which will notify the company about the customer’s driving habits.

"It doesn't tell where you're driving, it just tells them a little about your driving habits," insurance industry spokesman Jerry Johns told 1200 WOAI news.

Johns says the system is in place in other states, but the Progressive attempt is the first in Texas. He says customers can save up to $100 on their insurance premiums.

"Insurers would charge less for someone who drives fewer miles, and probably more for somebody who drives a considerable number of miles," Johns said.

The electronic device automatically notifies the insurance company of how many miles you drive, how fast you drive, whether you make 'jackrabbit' starts and stops, and other facets of your driving.

Progressive spokesman Richard Hutchison says most drivers can save 10 to 15 percent on their premiums, but he warns that it could result in your insurance rates going up.

"Drivers who tend to benefit the most are infrequent drivers, low mileage drivers, drivers who don't drive after midnight, and drivers who are more 'defensive' drivers than 'offensive' drivers," Hutchinson told 1200 WOAI news.

But the American Civil Liberties Union has some concerns about the idea.

"We would caution drivers that any time you're signing up to hand over personal information, you should be asking some very specific questions," the ACLU's Jose Medina said. "What data is being collected, how it is going to be sued, and whether it is going to be destroyed."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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With a name like 'Progressive', it has to be good.
1 posted on 07/21/2009 6:32:35 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Progressive is a rip-off...


2 posted on 07/21/2009 6:35:35 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: laotzu

” it just tells them a little about your driving habits,” insurance industry spokesman Jerry Johns told”

A nation of free people will not tolerate something like this.
Hopefully our nation will agree.

Red light cameras are part of the same cancer.


3 posted on 07/21/2009 6:36:37 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: laotzu
With a name like 'Progressive', it has to be good.

I recall them to have been the sleaziest, most arrogant bunch of insurance salesman I'd met (to date) when the first popped up in FL a decade-plus ago.

Anyway, ain't technology grand? Are people finally getting a clue how "capitalism" leads to totalitarianism, just like Marx said, when morality is made illegal?

4 posted on 07/21/2009 6:37:26 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (WWFUAMLD?)
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To: laotzu

This is Texas.

You can’t from point a to point b in many parts of the state without surpassing the speed limit because of distance or traffic flow.


5 posted on 07/21/2009 6:38:00 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: laotzu

Hey Obama missed this in the health no care bill. Track people’s drivng habits to determine who gets an ambulance in case of an accident. Dispatcher, “Negative on that Life Flight request officer, we see the driver was doing 20 miles over the speed limit.”


6 posted on 07/21/2009 6:38:57 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: laotzu

So you can save 10-15%...hmmm...turn this around. If insurance companies were already monitoring our driving habits, most people would be far more then willing to pay 10-15% more to have this removed.


7 posted on 07/21/2009 6:41:19 AM PDT by IrishPennant (RLT = Radical Left Terrorism...feel it????)
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To: laotzu

I don’t know... how will the habit of picking my nose whilst driving impact my insurance?

Negatively: because I have a hand off of the wheel?
Positively: because I can breathe better/easier, thereby providing more oxygen to my brain and reducing the chance of accident?

How do our habits affect all this!? [;)]


8 posted on 07/21/2009 6:43:10 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: laotzu

The name fits the practice. Sleezy, intrusive, and won’t work.

I’ll stick with the best insurance company - USAA.


9 posted on 07/21/2009 6:43:39 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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“What data is being collected, how it is going to be sued, “

I wonder if that is a real typo?
sued used


10 posted on 07/21/2009 6:44:31 AM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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To: IrishPennant

Your driving habits are “monitored” by your insurance company to some degree.

When you apply for insurance, they ask you what you do, where you work, how many miles you drive each day and they check your drivers license record.

When I moved and changed State Farm agents, the lady pulled up a speeding ticket I got in Hawaii more than a year earlier. It cost me 40 bucks more for the policy.


11 posted on 07/21/2009 6:44:47 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

>Red light cameras are part of the same cancer.

I do want to see many, many cases of .”22 v. Red Light Camera” being reported... but maybe that’s just my destructive side coming out.


12 posted on 07/21/2009 6:45:26 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I don't see anything bad as long as it's a voluntary deal done by a private company and its customers. Nobody should have an issue with people getting rewarded for following the speed laws.
13 posted on 07/21/2009 6:47:51 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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“I do want to see many, many cases of .”22 v. Red Light Camera” being reported... but maybe that’s just my destructive side coming out.”

Maybe a more creative prank should be done. Photographs of city council members license plates should be taken.

Then with the magic of Photoshop, make those photos into license plate replicas, put them on a another car, and go out and run red lights with cameras (only when safe to so of course).

After a few tickets arrive in the mail; maybe they would change their views.

14 posted on 07/21/2009 6:51:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

A nation of free people will be free to enter into any legal contract they wish.

If somebody who drives at exactly the speed limit for a very limited # of miles wants to enter into this contract, it’s fine. I probably couldn’t get away with it ;)

As long as it’s not government-mandated.


15 posted on 07/21/2009 6:52:35 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Somebody’s already been doing this.
I think some high school students did it with copies of their teachers’ plates.


16 posted on 07/21/2009 6:53:20 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: laotzu

>> With a name like ‘Progressive’, it has to be good.

Why does it not surprise me that the insurance company behind “monitoring” the populus is none other than Progressive?

Founder Peter Lewis is a BIG lefty. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375232/posts

I would never buy insurance from these scum, just on principle.


17 posted on 07/21/2009 6:53:46 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

LOL - That DOES sound like fun.


18 posted on 07/21/2009 6:53:51 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: laotzu

Years ago, Progresive submitted and their bank cashed a check I wrote to Millview Wesleyan Church. I’d crossed checks on Sunday, and the church called and notified me on Tuesday. Called Progressive to explain, and they’d already processed the church’s check as payment. I bid them good-bye shortly afterward.


19 posted on 07/21/2009 6:54:10 AM PDT by flowerplough (Sotomayor, during her hearings, on the Constitution: "It doesn't live, other than to be timeless.")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Oh wow, you've done it now. Hope you have the latest, bestest asbestos suit.

There's nothing that angers scofflaws any faster than those who obey the law. Any attempt to enforce the law is met with cries of outrage usually based around how any enforcement action is based solely on revenue concerns.

The only road rage I ever see is on the part of not the one who's safety or personal space has been invaded, but rather by those who did the invading and then get outraged when the invaded has the gall to call them on it.

20 posted on 07/21/2009 6:55:38 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Palin Must GO! to the white house)
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