Obama follows MA healthcare over cliff as bankrupt MA cuts care to *legal* immigrants, hospitals sue

Mitt Romney demonstrates his pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy and behavior),
and his need for admirationas the carpetbagger-socialist-chameleon-fascist-dictator installs ROMNEYCARE-1.

"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
When Governor Mitt Romney instituted a universal healthcare plan for Massachusetts in 2006 he proclaimed it a conservative idea.
But has it worked? Has it been successful?
For a time, many thought it might but cracks in the system are already being seen.
These cracks are instructive as a lesson on how Obamacare will crash and burn just like Romneycare is now in the process of doing.

One of the early claims that helped push Romneycare through to law was the insistence by its supporters that Emergency Room visits would fall as more and more citizens became covered under healthcare insurance.
Since ER care is far more expensive than a doctor's care, it was thought that more people with insurance would ease the overcrowding of ERs as well as lower the overall costs of healthcare.
However, a flaw in this logic has been seen throughout the state. As more people became insured, more people demanded the care of doctors. These doctors became overloaded with patients and waiting lists for doctors got longer and longer.
As a result, ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...

"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"Patients were allegedly left screaming in pain and drinking from flower vases on a nightmare hospital ward.
Between 400 and 1,200 more people died than would have been expected at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust over three years, a damning Healthcare Commission report said.
The watchdog's investigation found inadequately trained staff who were too few in number, junior doctors left alone in charge at night and patients left without food, drink or medication as their operations were repeatedly cancelled.
Patients were left in pain or forced to sit in soiled bedding for hours at a time and were not given their regular medication, the Commission heard.
Receptionists with no medical training were expected to assess patients coming in to A&E, some of whom needed urgent care.
Sir Bruce Keogh, medical director of the NHS, said there had been a "gross and terrible breach" of patients' trust and a "complete failure of leadership".
The Healthcare Commission's chairman Sir Ian Kennedy said the investigation followed concerns about a higher than normal death rate at the Trust, which senior managers could not explain.
He said: "The resulting report is a shocking story. Our report tells a story of appalling standards of care and chaotic systems for looking after patients. These are words I have not previously used in any report.
"There were inadequacies in almost every stage of caring for patients. There was no doubt that patients will have suffered and some of them will have died as a result."
Julie Bailey, 47, was so concerned about the care being given to her 86-year-old mother Bella at Stafford Hospital that she and her relatives slept in a chair at her bedside for eight weeks.
She said: "We saw patients drinking out of..."

"Paramedics told: 'Let accident victims die if they want to' in new row over patient rights (UK)"
Health Service paramedics have been told not to resuscitate terminally-ill patients who register on a controversial new database to say they want to die.
It has been set up by the ambulance service in London for hundreds of people who have only a few months to live so that they may register their 'death wishes' in advance.
It is believed to be the first in the country, but other trusts around the country are expected to follow suit to comply with Government guidelines which state that patients' wishes should be taken into account, even at the point of death.
Patients' groups and doctors have welcomed the scheme, but it has met opposition from pro-life groups who say it violates the sanctity of life.
The system would come into play if a cancer patient, for example, was in serious pain and rang 999 for help to alleviate the suffering.
But if the paramedics arrived and the patient was close to death, he or she would not be resuscitated if such a request was registered on the database.
This would also be the case if a patient on the database was being transferred between hospitals, and had a heart attack.
Dominica Roberts from the Pro-Life Alliance said: 'This is very sad and very dangerous. It's another step along the slippery slope, at the bottom of which is euthanasia as we see in Holland. 'Paramedics should be there to save lives. They should not be there to let patients die. The medical profession should not agree with someone's belief that their life is worthless.'"

"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
"Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. - 2009-03-31 "
"For folks increasingly leery of President Obama’s plan to radically overhaul America’s health-care system,
or 17 percent of the nation’s economy, all this could hardly have come at a better time —
that is, fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."

"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state. Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million,
or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,
has caused Massachusetts’ overall expenditures on all health-related programs to jump an astounding 42 percent since 2006.

So what does Mr. Romney’s successor, Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick, propose as a remedy for these skyrocketing costs?
Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) — price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage.
As in Europe and Canada, so too in Massachusetts. And, we feel certain, everyone from Mr. Romney to Mr. Patrick said, “It would never happen here.”
But then, such things are inevitable when best-laid plans, with all their monstrous costs, run smack-dab into fiscal reality.

"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"

Thousands of patients with terminal cancer were dealt a blow last night after a decision was made to deny them life prolonging drugs.
The Government's rationing body said two drugs for advanced breast cancer and a rare form of stomach cancer were too expensive for the NHS.
The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence is expected to confirm guidance in the next few weeks that will effectively ban their use.
The move comes despite a pledge by Nice to be more flexible in giving life-extending drugs
to terminally-ill cancer patients after a public outcry last year over 'death sentence' decisions."

"Patients Forced To Wait Hours In Ambulances Parked Outside A&E Departments
"An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has found that thousands of 999 patients are being left to wait in ambulances in car parks and holding bays, or in hospital corridors – in some cases for more than five hours – before they can even join the queue for urgent treatment.

Experts warn that hospitals are deliberately delaying when they accept patients – or are diverting them to different sites –
in order to meet Government targets to treat people within fours hours of admitting them."

"Cancer survivor confronts the health secretary on 62-day wait (UK Socialized Medicine)
WAITING times for cancer treatment need to be cut, the Scottish Government was told yesterday.
..Cancer experts later said that patients elsewhere in Europe would be "outraged" by having to wait two months to start treatment, with most being seen within two weeks.

The current target of 62 days from urgent referral by a doctor to starting treatment has still not been met in Scotland, despite that originally being the target figure for 2005."

"Hospital patient so shocked at dirty ward she climbed out of bed to clean it herself
After 12 years cleaning care homes and private houses, no one is better qualified than Tereza Tosbell to say whether a room is spotless.
So hospital bosses should take heed of her opinion after she spent four days on a 'filthy' ward.
The mother-of-one said during her stay there was a single, brief visit from a cleaner who left dusty curtains, dirty bedframes and a messy floor.
Disgusted at the conditions, she grabbed the antibacterial fluid dispenser at the end of her bed and some hand towels from the bathroom.
She then set about cleaning her four-bed ward, at one point dropping to her hands and knees to sanitise the floor as she dragged her drip trolley behind her.
'It was shameful to see how sloppy the cleaners were while I was there. I was not prepared to put up with such conditions,'
said Miss Tosbell, a 48-year-old divorcee who was admitted to Colchester General Hospital in Essex with an abscess in her neck.."

"Kidney cancer patients denied life-saving drugs by NHS rationing body NICE (UK Socialized Medicine)
Thousands of kidney cancer patients are likely to lose out on life-prolonging drugs.
The NHS rationing body, NICE, has confirmed a ban on three out of four new treatments.
.. 'Families will be denied time together and doctors will be unable to give patients the best treatment.'."

"Girl, 3, has heart operation cancelled three times because of bed shortage (UK Socialized Medicine)
A three-year-old girl awaiting heart surgery has had her operation cancelled three times this month because of a shortage of beds.

... A hospital spokesman said that procedures would be reviewed, but the case highlights a growing problem of cancelled operations in the NHS.
More than 57,000 surgeries were postponed for non-clinical reasons, including a lack of beds, last year – 10 per cent more than the previous year."

Obama, Kennedy et al do not care about the cost--33% higher or 100% higher. It is about the control! They want total control of our lives, period.

Wonder what old Joe Kennedy would think of this? His family has played a big part in all sorts of regulations.

vaudine

Getting the picture? This is the MEDICAL REPARATIONS REFORM. Illegal immigrants and other minorities get free healthcare, Anglos get to stand in line in die.

This is racism, pure and simple.

Goodbye America.

Here's the fundamental problem. In any economic downturn private individuals might decide to keep their health care and start eating dog food. Others might dump the health care and buy a new "used" Chevy to get to work at a better job.

When you make your health care part of the government's budget it gets in line BEHIND the salary for the secretaries who inhabit the Capitol building, or the need to purchase military tanks to give to the South Korean army.

So far the Democrats have not given us any reasons why OUR budgeting is not superior to THEIR budgeting.

Frankly, I don't think the government can do as good a job as I can and anybody who tells me they can is an idiot.

If it doesn't contain costs, what's the point of rationing except power? Obamacare jokes Obama jokes

In a former life, I worked my way through college as a cab driver in a mid-sized midwestern city. I can tell you that everybody utilized cabs, just as they do health care, at some point in their lives.

But I can also tell you that, any given time, it is a relatively small number of people who provide the greatest consumption. In my case, there was one regular who was either checking in or checking out of the hospital every 2-3 days to treat an alcoholism problem. The hospital could never cure him because he had no desire to be cured. He only wanted to be nursed back to health so he could check out and go looking for the next drink. The hospital, likewise, wanted to meet the minimum requirements for treatment to bill the county and release the wino so the bed would be available to the next case.

Even back then, I couldn't help but wonder whether it wouldn't be cheaper and better for the wino to institutionalized him or revert to an old custom used by my Native American relatives. This consists of taking the drunk camping in a remote area, depriving him of drink, feeding him only what you can hunt, fish, trap or gather and not allowing him to rejoin the tribe until he was cured of the addiction. Those who didn't or wouldn't get cured ended up as a meal for wild game, if they were lucky.

Are those REAL immigrants ???

Or illegal aiens ???

I cant see them getting away with cutting off illegal aliens...

The favored group...

That’s all very interesting, but do you have any supporting references?

And people want to elect Romney??????

Frankly, I don't think the government can do as good a job as I can and anybody who tells me they can is an idiot.

All one has to do is look at the fiscal health of the US Government and States such as Michigan and Kalifornia to realize that our current government is run by some of the worse fiscal managers in world history. The feds deficit this fiscal year is already over a trillion and could reach 2 trillion. No individual on the planet has ever lost that much relative wealth in a year. Drunken bums at the gas station manage money better then that.

The affected immigrants, permanent residents who have had green cards for less than five years, are now covered under Commonwealth Care, a subsidized insurance program for low-income residents

I have no problem with this. Why in the world are we importing poverty for citizen taxpayers to take care of? If they want to come here they should not be able to get handouts....period.

Now I DO have a big problem with Massachesuetts mandated health insurance.

Not me, but he is leading in the GOP polls...go figure.

As Obama and the current Congress face-plant the economy, more and more people will become less and less tolerant of clowns like Romney.

“And people want to elect Romney”

McCain, Romney, or the Huckster.... not exactly an all star line up.

“I have no problem with this. Why in the world are we importing poverty for citizen taxpayers to take care of? If they want to come here they should not be able to get handouts....period.”

Fine, but all they have to do is go to the emergency room and they will be seen.

Are they paying taxes? If you’re gonna have socialized medicine then it should include all legal residents.

But you might be doing them a favor since socialized medicine doesn’t work.

Do I have a source to quote that says Obama wants total control of our lives? Hardly!

By reading Obama's background, his appointees and their backgrounds, the Clinton's fighting for national health care, and globalism; then looking at who is trying to get more control, I am able to put it together.

National health care plus Cap & Trade would enable this WH to keep on gathering the control into their hands:

Census from the WH.

Govt. ownership of banks and auto mfg.

Govt control of our health care (cannot you see how that could be used to keep people in line?)

Cap and trade--allowing the usual suspects to make gazillions and pass on the expense to the people.

Payback to unions in many of these bills exempting union workers from paying various taxes & penalties.

EPA strapping any kind of mining, drilling, timber cutting with years of studies--like the mine in AK that they have studied for 9 years and at which SC has said Corps of Engineers is in charge, but EPA wants 8 more months.

The model of Spain on global warming--bankrupted the govt., but the WH doesn't care.

MA total care is going bankrupt, but WH still pushing to make it national.

Everything this Pres. and his czars are advocating are geared to wipe out our economy and way of life.

Oh, I forgot to mention Obama's speech in Germany in which he claimed himself "a citizen of the world".

Under the radar of MSM and their 24/7 about Michael Jackson etc. are these things in the works being pushed by this WH:

THE NORTH AMERICAN COMMUNITY (free trade and travel and exchange of workers by US, Mex. and Can.--likeEuro Union.

THE COMPREHENSIVE NUCLEAR TEST BAN TREATY (sounds like peace--but would weaken and destroy our ability to protect ourselves)

CEDAW (THE U.N. TREATY ON WOMEN)-U.N gets to dictate family planning, education--Hillary's village raises your child.

THE U.N. TREATY ON THE RIGHTS OF THE CHILD:your child can sue you, tattle on you-U.N. "experts" tell you how to raise your child.

U.N. TREATY/GOVERNANCE/TAXATION ON GLOBAL WARMING.

THE LAW OF THE SEA-gives a global body right to tell us when and where we can sail and extract minerals.

Think these things can't be done without Senate approval? Treaties can be gotten around by implementing various elements by Exec. Order.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but this is all the documentation I can think of. You can google all these various things, and keep watch on postings from the bills being brought up.

The affected immigrants, permanent residents who have had green cards for less than five years, are now covered under Commonwealth Care, a subsidized insurance program for low-income residents that is central to the groundbreaking health care law enacted here in 2006.

Another "Newspeak" article, subtly attempting to have me accept the double talk. These are LINOs... Legal Residents in name only and, if they couldn't support themselves or contribute to their old age retirement, they had no business being accepted as immigrants.

So no longer being parasites is a good thing, and they are free to return to their country of origin "toot sweet!"

bookmark

I was just pulling your leg. It was an absurd question. Bill Engvall would be handing me a sign if had I been serious.

My compliments, however, on the impressive compilation and thanks for your diligence. It will be a great help in an on going converastion I'm having with an old and very liberal friend.