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Switzerland says would stop UBS handing over client data to US Government
Reuters ^ | 7/8/2009 | Lisa Jucca and Tom Brown

Posted on 07/08/2009 7:27:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

* U.S. judge orders U.S. govt to say how far it would go

* Switzerland says would stop UBS handing over client data

* Berne says may seize UBS client data, if necessary

* Judge may be pushing for a settlement

A judge ordered the U.S. government to say whether it was prepared to shut Swiss bank UBS AG (UBSN.VX) (UBS.N) in the United States as part of a battle to learn the identity of 52,000 secret accounts suspected of being used by Americans to avoid taxes.

U.S. District Judge Alan Gold, set to preside over a hearing Monday of a suit seeking to force UBS to provide the information, asked specifically Wednesday about "receivership and/or seizure of UBS' assets within the United States."

Gold said such remedies might be requested of the court if UBS failed to comply, or was prevented from complying by the Swiss government. He gave the U.S. Justice Department until noon (1600 GMT) on Sunday to respond.

Switzerland has vowed to prevent UBS from handing over client information to U.S authorities, in an attempt to defend bank secrecy, and says the tax case targeting its biggest bank is souring diplomatic ties.

Washington has accused UBS of hiding nearly $15 billion in assets in secret accounts but the tax litigation is also crucial for the future of the multibillion-dollar wealth management industry and is pushing several offshore banks to force clients to come clean.

The Swiss Justice Ministry said earlier on Wednesday that Swiss law prevents UBS from handing over client information and the government would seize UBS client data, if necessary, to stop that happening.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: swissbanks; switzerland; taxes; ubs
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1 posted on 07/08/2009 7:27:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a good thing.


2 posted on 07/08/2009 7:30:52 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: SeekAndFind; Rodebrecht

Agreed! Good for the Swiss!


3 posted on 07/08/2009 7:33:10 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You canÂ’t blame Bush anymore...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope the Swiss hang tough on this. And I DON’T have any “secret” accounts there or anywhere. The ObamaComs can’t spread anybody’s wealth around if they can’t get their little piggie paws on it.


4 posted on 07/08/2009 7:35:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Switzerland is my bail out country in case things get too out of hand here.


5 posted on 07/08/2009 7:35:44 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: Rodebrecht

I think yes.

Now, what repercussions would that have with Switzerland? One, giving up the data. Two, being shut down in the US and forbidden to operate here.

What would the other off-shore banks be thinking? Is their data next? Would they be forced to close?

If the banks close in the US, does the US mail start delivering deposits for account holders? That’s a safe company and a trustworthy one, postage rates might go up (again).


6 posted on 07/08/2009 7:35:56 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Rodebrecht
This is a good thing.

Tax evasion is a good thing ?
7 posted on 07/08/2009 7:36:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: K-oneTexas

The US government is so stupid. If you want money to come back to the USA, the answer is simple -— Give INCENTIVES for those with money to WANT to invest or deposit what they have hear.

In other words — COMPETE FINANCIALLY WITH THE SWISS.

Why this never crosses anyone’s mind in congress is beyond me.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 7:38:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact that this private company is refusing to bend to the will of the leviathan US government considering its clients personal matters is a good thing.


9 posted on 07/08/2009 7:39:18 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: SeekAndFind

hear = here.


10 posted on 07/08/2009 7:39:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The bigger Soros-scented accounts have no need to worry. They can easily have their holdings converted to US bearer bonds (just need to specify the vintage desired, and then one snap of the fingers). This can then be courier’d around to where needed.


11 posted on 07/08/2009 7:42:04 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: K-oneTexas
Two, being shut down in the US and forbidden to operate here.

If we pulled anything like that, all it takes is a few phone calls from the right people in Switzerland and the dollar will be so much toilet paper.

12 posted on 07/08/2009 7:42:11 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree. Don’t think it will come to that thought ... tax reform. Meaningful tax reform.

So we have the courts and the Executive Branch Agencies possibly closing foreign banks. Did UBS get any bailout money? Their stateside operations?


13 posted on 07/08/2009 7:43:55 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: SeekAndFind
*** Tax evasion is a good thing ? ***

What other countries do with their banks and what rules they make is none of the Obama administration's business..

In fact the US cannot even fix its own banking industry...so the answer to your question is YES

The gov't has no clue as to who may be putting money in a Swiss account...they just want to go fishing.....screw um

14 posted on 07/08/2009 8:09:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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The reason that the US Govt and IRS know that there are “secret” accounts is that US taxpayers report them on their tax returns as required. There aren’t 50000 secret accounts. Many americans..like me..have accounts at UBS and report them on our tax forms. The US Govt want more. They want the banks to report to make sure that we are telling he truth. There aren’t that many accounts which aren’t reported. The ones that are truly secret, will remain secret because they don’t bear the name of the owner.


15 posted on 07/08/2009 8:18:58 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat
You seem to know a lot more than I do on Swiss Bank accounts...I still say its not the business of the IRS or US government to interfere in another countries banking regs..The IRS is not king of the world....
16 posted on 07/08/2009 8:28:52 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: SeekAndFind

Also, keeping what belongs to you, not the government, by any means available is a VERY good thing.


17 posted on 07/08/2009 8:36:27 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: goat granny
The IRS is not king of the world....

Yhe IRS sure as hell thinks they are.

18 posted on 07/08/2009 8:38:01 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Rodebrecht

Nice! I’m formulating a bailout list myself. These days, you have too.


19 posted on 07/09/2009 5:37:23 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You canÂ’t blame Bush anymore...)
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To: K-oneTexas
They won't close: they'll be seized, which would mean the assets of the innocent held here would be stolen by the gov to 'punish' the guilty who have funds abroad, outside the reach of such action.

Being a complete clusterf---, but most beneficial to the gov, this is of course the most likely action to be taken.

It will be interesting to see if the seizure is pawned off to private law firms for 'processing,' who will keep 30% and kick back a good chunk of that money to the Dem party & Obama's cronies-- it's the Chicago Way!

20 posted on 07/09/2009 8:33:45 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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