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North Korea 'launches massive cyber attack on Seoul'
Times Online (U.K.) ^ | 8 July 2009 | Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 07/08/2009 5:51:45 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: AmericanInTokyo

http://att.my.yahoo.com/http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_go_ot/us_cyber_attack

The above link fr Yahoo! on their front page is down and has been for some time.


21 posted on 07/08/2009 8:35:39 AM PDT by Dysart (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong--Voltaire)
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To: Clock King

Yeah, Lil Kim has that MJackson aura......


22 posted on 07/08/2009 8:39:10 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: Hardastarboard

I’m stunned they can do this to but, I wonder if this was actually staged to expedite Obama’s desired takeover and control of cyberspace “so we can prevent such attacks from ever happening again.”


23 posted on 07/08/2009 8:43:15 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

My bet would be that they’re based in the South. I doubt they’d have as much access to the necessary infrastructure in the North. What I’m wondering is whether this is saber-rattling, a test run in preparation for a real attack to coincide with a military attack, or both.


24 posted on 07/08/2009 8:49:15 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Hardastarboard

I think they are at the 8088 XT level by now. Hell they may be up to Tandy 1000’s at this point.


25 posted on 07/08/2009 8:53:53 AM PDT by Shaun_MD (Closed Mouth, Opened Mind, Clenched Fist.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What’s unsettling is we don’t know what’s really going on politically within North Korea right now. What happens if Kim dies? Is he even still in charge? Will power pass peacefully to his son, or will there be a struggle?

For some time, I’ve suspected that his generals are really running the show, and that Kim’s main role is to maintain his cult of personality to keep the rank and file in line. If that’s the case, I’m not sure how confident they are that they can stay in power without him. Worst-case scenario is that they start a war with South Korea in order to rally the population behind them. Crazy, but who knows what kind of ideas you get in your head living in a country like that.


26 posted on 07/08/2009 8:55:18 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

When is somebody going to stick an ICBM up this loser’s backside?


27 posted on 07/08/2009 8:59:02 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: The Pack Knight

I was just researching (while bored at work) a little on the Kimster. Apparently this is his official song, a popular tune in Nork.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoUybUHXYZ8

What’s really sad is reading the comments. A little of hero worshippers out there.


28 posted on 07/08/2009 8:59:23 AM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: Napoleon Solo

The problem is, in cyberwar, the balance seems to be heavily in favor of offense over defense. This is generally the case with normal military technology, but the relatively slow rate at which it develops leaves sometimes lengthy periods of time when defensive technologies are ascendant. The much faster development of computer technology means that the ability to attack is almost perpetually much greater than the ability to defend against attack.

That’s how I understand it, anyway.


29 posted on 07/08/2009 9:00:59 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: AUH2O Repub
A nuke detonated at 39°2′N 125°45′E would create a EMP that would keep North Korea from doing this again

Nah, it was a distributed attack.
30 posted on 07/08/2009 9:01:45 AM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Unlikely Hero
I think its a “systems check” of some sort. A drill.
They are testing there rockets. This is a weapon as well.
31 posted on 07/08/2009 9:05:03 AM PDT by envisio (Sexual Beer & BBQ Ribs)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

They hit the banks, too? Did they get all the stimulus dough?


32 posted on 07/08/2009 9:05:52 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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They hit the banks, too? Did they get all the stimulus dough?

Impossible to get all of it that way - they would have to hit an unknown number of foreign banks too. And not even Congress knows which or how many foreign banks, or even how much money was shunted overseas (in the name of "economic stabilization").

33 posted on 07/08/2009 9:13:28 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: Unlikely Hero

“...and oddly sort of impressive.”

“Many of the organizations appeared to successfully blunt the sustained attacks.”

easily impressed?


34 posted on 07/08/2009 9:18:52 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

I think the mere fact that NK has a cyber attack division while at the same time being a barbaric backwards realm is sort of impressive. So it didn’t completely work—it’s more than I would have thought them capable of doing.

Besides, the NKs will probably learn from this experience and adapt for future actions. Hopefully our cyber folks are doing the same.


35 posted on 07/08/2009 9:27:23 AM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Stop at least his golf game is getting better


36 posted on 07/08/2009 9:27:25 AM PDT by italianquaker (We went from a country that hates the president to a president that hates his country)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Your posts are simultaneously quite impressive, and frightening as hell. There are a couple of people on this board whose posts I try to track as my favorites. You’re now on that list. Good job.


37 posted on 07/08/2009 9:30:31 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: italianquaker

A denial of service attack, which is what these events appear to be, are not exactly rocket science.

It’s the network equivalent of sending every North Korean to the same McDonalds. The net effect is long lines and a general lack of availability to anyone else wanting to use the restaurant.

Contrary to what many people may believe, attacking an agency’s website generally has little to no effect on how said agency performs. If you take down Verizon’s website, it will inconvenience their customers, but their cell phones will still work, they’ll still get billed for using them. :)

That aside, critical government functions are generally carried out over networks that are largely invisible to internet cyberattacks, and are in fact isolated from the internet entirely.

That said, a cyber attack, whether effective or not, should be treated as an act of war, and should be dealt with accordingly.

Had the PRK been a little less amateur in their thinking, their attacks would have been directed at a place where they could do some harm, like financial institutions.


38 posted on 07/08/2009 9:38:53 AM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Sounds like maybe you have the wrong understanding!


39 posted on 07/08/2009 9:41:20 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Shaun_MD

LOL!

My first computer was a Tandy 1000RL!


40 posted on 07/08/2009 9:51:30 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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