You both try to force ID into your own categories and your own stereotypes, then accuse advocates of ID of dishonesty when they continue to express themselves in their own terms with their own words. Shame on you.
The general question, “How does one distinguish between what is natural, and what has been designed?” is a valid question. Attempting to establish criteria is valid. Applying these criteria to cases is valid. You can assert that none of this is science. I could hardly care less.
Are those who see design open to the idea that God may be the designer in a particular case? Many are. You may conclude such a reply to be invalid. That would be your opinion. You may insist that the only God acceptable to you would proceed in the way that you specify. Again, your opinion. Opinions differ. That you question their honesty reflects poorly upon you. That you continue to attempt to force their thoughts into your categories shows that you do not have an open mind.
The general question, “How does one distinguish between what is natural, and what has been designed?” is a valid question.
Interesting. All I wrote was (or follows from) that ID'ers explicitly distinguish "design" from any possible effects of natural law alone, such that "design" is inferred where natural law alone supposedly cannot explain the phenomena (whereas Jefferson included natural law and all it's effects in God's creationistic power and activity).
You seem to disagree with me somehow in the first paragraph, and suggest that my characterization of ID'ers has been dishonest, but then in very first sentence of the second paragraph you affirm that very characterization: that ID'ers do "distinguish between what is natural, and what has been designed," and that this is indeed the "general question" behind ID.
So I guess I have to ask you to explain more clearly where you think I am wrong and dishonest, 'cause I'm not seeing it.
Are those who see design open to the idea that God may be the designer in a particular case? Many are.
Yes, many are. And many of those, like Jefferson, are open to inferring that God is the Designer and Creator in ALL cases. But this does not include ID'ers, who are only willing to infer design in SOME cases, and then aren't even willing to credit God for it, but only some unspecified "intelligent designer" who might or might not be God. (Unless, of course, ID'ers aren't being straight with us?)