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To: kabar
> Facts are stubborn things. Canada spends 1.1% of its GDP on defense, which makes it 132nd in the world and its armed forces of 65,000 are 55th in the world in terms of size.

You're right: facts are stubborn things. So what do you intend to do with your military when the ChiComs finally decide not to lend you any more gas money? That will be the biggest joke yet -- except nobody will be laughing. Your military spending model is unsustainable. Nobody can afford to fight wars the way the US does. Not even the US.

> Of course, when you have the US taxpayerChiComs picking up most of the tab, you can afford to have a virtually non-existent military so you can afford your socialized medical care.

There. Fixed it. Truth in Advertising.

86 posted on 06/14/2009 11:35:59 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; kabar
> Of course, when you have the US taxpayerChiComs picking up most of the tab, you can afford to have a virtually non-existent military so you can afford your socialized medical care.
~~~
Listen Up!,,,

Without the US Military all you people would have been

killed in WWII or made slaves to the Japs!!! Got It!?

We require our Military to be “Uniform” for a reason that

you do not understand ! (haircut~shave),,,

As for a “non-existent military “,,,

How many Carriers does Your country Have ?

How many heavy bombers ?

How many ICBM’s ?

How many subs ?
~~~
Ships and Submarines
Deployable Battle Force Ships: 283

Ships Underway (away from homeport): 127 ships (45 % of total)

On deployment: 117 ships (41 % of total)

Attack submarines underway (away from homeport): 36 submarines (66%)

On deployment: 24 submarines (44%)
Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS George Washington (CVN 73) - Pacific Ocean
USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) - Pacific Ocean
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) - Pacific Ocean
USS George Bush (CVN 77) - Atlantic Ocean

Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Nassau (LHA 4) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Essex (LHD 2) - East China Sea
USS Boxer (LHD 4) - 5th Fleet
USS Bataan (LHD 5) - Adriatic Sea
USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) - Atlantic Ocean

Aircraft (operational): 3700+
~~~Navy.mil~~~6~11~09~~~

All paid for by US Taxpayers and manned by AMERICANS !

If they don't like the rules here they can go back to

the Turd world Shiite hole that they came from !!!...

91 posted on 06/15/2009 1:20:31 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
You're right: facts are stubborn things. So what do you intend to do with your military when the ChiComs finally decide not to lend you any more gas money? That will be the biggest joke yet -- except nobody will be laughing. Your military spending model is unsustainable. Nobody can afford to fight wars the way the US does. Not even the US.

As I stated, you US can no longer afford to fund the global defense umbrella for our allies. Our economy is declining under massive debt, which will raise debt servicing costs from the current $400 billion a year to over $800 billion in a decade. Debt servicing costs are the third largest item in the federal budget after entitlements and defense. We will no longer be able to afford guns and butter and the politicians will choose butter. Just as the Briish could no longer afford troops East of Suez, the US global defense role will decline. It is inevitable.

Our allies must do more or this will become an increasingly dangerous world with countries like China trying to fill the vacuum. Canada is an example of a country that could do more, but isn't.

> Of course, when you have the US taxpayerChiComs picking up most of the tab, you can afford to have a virtually non-existent military so you can afford your socialized medical care. There. Fixed it. Truth in Advertising.

You have your facts wrong again. China holds about $1.5 trillion of our $11.4 trillion national debt, hardly picking up the tab for our defense.

The US taxpayer has been picking up most of the tab for the security umbrella for our allies. Unlike the Chinese who hold a real debt instrument and will be paid interest on their holdings and can cash them in to get back their money, the US taxpayer will not see a penny of its money back. That's the difference.

98 posted on 06/15/2009 6:09:22 AM PDT by kabar
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