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The Brown Scare of '09
ReasonOnLine ^ | June 12, 2909 | Deagle

Posted on 06/12/2009 12:43:05 AM PDT by Deagle

Right Wing attack fallacy...


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KEYWORDS: muslim; rightwinggroups
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Another example of the media trying to attach actions to beliefs...
1 posted on 06/12/2009 12:43:05 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Please learn the proper way to post an article.


2 posted on 06/12/2009 1:01:34 AM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: Misterioso

I am actually interested in your ideas. I have not posted before and would like your ideas. What am I doing wrong?


3 posted on 06/12/2009 1:07:23 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Okay, lets open this to other ideas also... What should a poster do to ensure both accurate and interest in the subject provided.


4 posted on 06/12/2009 1:16:28 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

You didn’t fill out the “Posting New Thread” form completely. For instance, the author’s name is Jesse Walker. And you left the body of the thread blank.


5 posted on 06/12/2009 1:19:50 AM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: Deagle

Oh, and check the date. :•)


6 posted on 06/12/2009 1:20:58 AM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: Misterioso

Yea, I am horribly an agent of your gross “I don’t know what the hell I;m doing” group... This is the first time posting and of course, am suffering the results of it...


7 posted on 06/12/2009 1:27:32 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Okay, I understand I goofed up badly.. I’m looking into it..although I really do not understand the problem...yet?


8 posted on 06/12/2009 1:31:34 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

You must be a charter member, considering your anniversary date. Why so long to paste one up?


9 posted on 06/12/2009 1:32:31 AM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: Misterioso

I understand you problems...and I have a lot on my end... I have not posted an article before and am trying... so please give me a break here...


10 posted on 06/12/2009 1:34:09 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Not too badly. I connected with the Reason article and appreciate your bringing it to our attention.


11 posted on 06/12/2009 1:35:24 AM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: Misterioso

Hey, yes on the early membership, this is the first time trying to “past one up” as you say... Really just thankful for reading.,..not posting.


12 posted on 06/12/2009 1:36:38 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle
From www.reason.com/blog:
The Brown Scare of '09

Greg Sargent's reaction to the murder at the Holocaust Museum yesterday -- "it's time to revisit criticism of 'right-wing extremists' report" -- wasn't atypical. You could hear the same insta-reaction around the Web, as confirmation bias did its work and two or three crimes by far-right figures were transformed into something larger. Here's Andrew Sullivan: "That DHS report doesn't look so iffy any more, does it?" Markos Moulitsas: "Attempt by Cons to justify their critique of prescient DHS report are an extra special dose of stupid." Benjamin Sarlin at The Daily Beast writes that "a much-maligned Department of Homeland Security memo on right-wing extremism is looking more accurate by the day." Doug J. at Balloon Juice says, "How many acts of right-wing terrorism have to occur before DHS is allowed to start keeping track of it?"

So the Department of Homeland Security, a bloated and dysfunctional agency that shouldn't exist in the first place, should spend its time tracking the possibility that a criminal kook with no co-conspirators will decide to shoot a doctor or a security guard? From preventing another 9/11 to preventing unorganized shootings: Talk about mission creep. Yes, these murders are terrorism, but they're the sort of terrorism that can be contained by the average small-town police force. If you try to blow them up into a grand pattern that threatens ordinary Americans, you're no different from the C-level conservative pundits who treat every politically motivated crime by a Muslim as evidence of a broad Islamic threat to ordinary Americans' well-being. (The reliably inane Debbie Schlussel even blames Islam for the Holocaust Museum shooting, despite the fact that the killer is a neo-Nazi, on the grounds that "it is because of Muslims--who are the biggest contributor to the worldwide rise in anti-Semitism to Holocaust-eve levels--that neo-Nazis feel comfortable--far more comfortable!--manifesting their views about Jews.")

Why did the DHS report come under such fire? It wasn't because far-right cranks are incapable of committing crimes. It's because the paper blew the threat of right-wing terror out of proportion, just as the Clinton administration did in the '90s; because it treated "extremism" itself as a potential threat, while offering a definition of extremist so broad it seemed it include anyone who opposed abortion or immigration or excessive federal power; and because it fretted about the danger of "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities." (Note that neither the killing in Kansas last month nor the shooting in Washington yesterday was committed by an Iraq or Afghanistan vet.) The effect isn't to make right-wing terror attacks less likely. It's to make it easier to smear nonviolent, noncriminal figures on the right, just as the most substantial effect of a red scare was to make it easier to smear nonviolent, noncriminal figures on the left. The fact that communist spies really existed didn't justify Joseph McCarthy's antics, and the fact that armed extremists really exist doesn't justify the Department of Homeland Security's report.

13 posted on 06/12/2009 1:38:53 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Misterioso

I am really sorry about the mis-posting..but not sure what I could have done right. That is the problem here. Oh well, my first attempt after several years was not a complete disaster - only to those that screen the posts here...heh.


14 posted on 06/12/2009 1:43:31 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Don’t let the perfectionists get to you.

Thanks for the post. I enjoyed the article. Please don’t wait so long before posting again.


15 posted on 06/12/2009 1:48:41 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Deagle

Actually, I think that I will not do this again - I prefer reading anyway...


16 posted on 06/12/2009 1:49:54 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

That last reply was to you...heh. I think that this is the last time that I will try to post a thread. Ha, it was fun, but a bit tramatic...


17 posted on 06/12/2009 1:51:32 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: wintertime

Darn...a nice response! Well, I really thank you but have decided that it is not worth the hassle involved with posting. I really did not know that it would draw such criticism - but really should have known since this is the internet after all...

Anyway, thank you and I hope your reading of this site continues unabated...hehe...


18 posted on 06/12/2009 1:54:44 AM PDT by Deagle
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You done good. :o)

You brought attention to a good article about an important subject -- which is one of the primary functions of this forum.

As for your CRITICS, they may mean well -- but I subscribe to TR's opinion of them. (The GOOD part is highlighted in red.)

19 posted on 06/12/2009 2:09:20 AM PDT by RonDog
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Heh... thanks RonDog... Not sure that all of the critics mean good but what the hey...(actually, I think that most mean good with their criticism) I do thank you for your words though.. (not sure why I did that anyway)...

Not sure why I decided to try a post anyway...


20 posted on 06/12/2009 2:14:09 AM PDT by Deagle
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