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US government securities seized from Japanese nationals, not clear whether real or fake
AsiaNews ^ | 06/08/2009 | unattributed

Posted on 06/11/2009 2:07:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy

Bonds worth US$ 134.5 billion are seized. This is the largest financial smuggling case in history. But are they real? Concern over ‘funny money’ or counterfeit securities is spreading in Asia. The international press is silent.

Milan (AsiaNews) –  Italy’s financial police (Guardia italiana di Finanza) has seized US bonds worth US 134.5 billion from two Japanese nationals at Chiasso (40 km from Milan) on the border between Italy and Switzerland. They include 249 US Federal Reserve bonds worth US$ 500 million each, plus ten Kennedy bonds and other US government securities worth a billion dollar each.

Italian authorities have not yet determined whether they are real or fake, but if they are real the attempt to take them into Switzerland would be the largest financial smuggling operation in history; if they are fake, the matter would be even more mind-boggling because the quality of the counterfeit work is such that the fake bonds are undistinguishable from the real ones.

What caught the policemen’s attention were the billion dollar securities. Such a large denomination is not available in regular financial and banking markets. Only states handle such amounts of money.

The question now is who could or would counterfeit or smuggle these non-negotiable bonds.

In order to stop money laundering Italian law sets a ceiling of 10,000 euros per person for importing or exporting money without declaring it. The penalty for violating the law is 40 per cent of the money seized.

If the certificates were real, for Italy it would be like hitting the jackpot. The fine alone would amount to US$ 38 billion, five times the estimated cost of rebuilding quake-devastated Abruzzi region. It would help Italy’s eliminate its public deficit.

If the certificates are fakes the two Japanese nationals could get a very lengthy jail sentence for fraud.

As soon as the seizure was made the US Embassy in Rome was informed. Italian and US secret services were called in to assist the Italian financial police.

Some important international financial newspapers had already reported on the existence of ‘funny money’ circulating on parallel, i.e. unofficial, financial markets.

For AsiaNews a few points need considering:

1.      When it comes to Italy the world press has tended to focus on Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi’s personal problems rather than on stories like the bonds smuggling affair which has been front page on Italian newspapers.

2.      The fear of counterfeit bonds and securities has spread across Asia with the result that real securities are also considered with suspicion.

3.      During the Second World War several countries at war printed and put in circulation perfectly counterfeit enemy money. It is also historically established that some central banks, like the Bank of Italy 65 years ago, issued the same securities twice (identical registered number and code). This way they could print more money with legal tender than they officially declared. The main difference though is that 65 years ago the world was involved in a bloody war, which is not the case today.


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To: 1rudeboy

Travel money. See below.

http://pacificcresttales.com/Pacific_Crest_Tales/Views_%26_Perspectives/Entries/2009/6/11_Traveling_Money_.html


41 posted on 06/11/2009 10:23:45 PM PDT by NorseWood
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To: April Lexington

Possibly related?

Reuters: Japan internal affairs minister says to resign
http://twitter.com/BreakingNews


42 posted on 06/11/2009 10:29:21 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: sanchmo

The real question is who benefits from a story reported outside the US that causes you to conclude:

1. Some sovereign holdings are being shifted secretly.

2. Billions are being counterfeited.

3. Either way you cannot trust US debt (bonds or dollars).

If heavily reported in the US press the story would be debunked quickly and thoroughly. It is ripe for the ignorant.


43 posted on 06/12/2009 3:48:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: JMack

I really have no idea. Let’s say that it is a scam and they’re counterfeit: It would be one of the biggest scams attempted in history - more than double what Madoff supposedly pulled down.

Let’s say they’re legit: What a windfall for the Italian government - who would get to seize something like 40% of the value of the paper they were trying to smuggle. It would go a long way to clearing up the Italian national budget deficit this year.

Either way, it should get more attention, and I’m at a complete loss to explain why the US press hasn’t dug into it more.


45 posted on 06/12/2009 5:59:43 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Royal Wulff
Hmmm....

Also, Japan issued a statement yesterday praising the American dollar and promising to continue buying bonds. I was very surprised by that announcement. Maybe Japan just got caught doing something really unnecessary and stupid? But, Japanese are extremely smart. Why do this????

46 posted on 06/12/2009 11:26:20 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: NVDave
Good point. This still doesn't make any sense to me. Plus, Japan issued a statement yesterday supporting the dollar and US bonds. Very strange indeed!
47 posted on 06/12/2009 11:28:37 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
Appears to be simply a case of fraud. People do fall for those 419 Scams. Otherwise you wouldn't get those Nigerian emails, right?

Here is a good compilation of legit links (including Bloomberg) from a very "tinfoil hat-ish/truther" blog. In keeping with the tinfoil nature of that site...how can you tell they're fake if you rely the U.S. Treasury verify them?..lol;)

http://cryptogon.com/?p=9095

It's hard to believe anyone would fall for some kind of scam involving U.S. Bearer bonds from 1934. Then again, a lot of "smart" people fell for Madoff, too.

48 posted on 06/13/2009 7:29:34 AM PDT by 10Ring
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