Posted on 06/09/2009 3:54:55 AM PDT by edpc
WASHINGTON U.S. authorities have brought the first Guantanamo Bay detainee to the United States, flying him into New York to face trial for bombing U.S. embassies, the Justice Department said Tuesday.
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[Ahmed] Ghailani is scheduled to appear in Manhattan federal court later Tuesday.
Yes, but will the judge have empathy and remember while he may have committed heinous acts, he also is a person who has a family who cares about him.....?
/s
If it is a wise latina woman there can be no doubt.
At this point I say if he gets out on bail let Manhattan have him. If people there don’t take national security seriously, especially after watching 9/11 with their own eyes, then they deserve to have terrorists running in their midst.
With or with-out his FREE Labtop?
HELP! ! ! !
SO, once again, the anointed one and his 0bamunists have decided that the will of the people counts for nothing in his grand scheme.
I’m sick of this arrogant, anti-Constitutional gasbag and his sycophantic minions. He needs to go back to Chicago; or, better yet, back to his homeland...wherever that might be.
It’s time to take back the country.
When is the glitteratti reception to welcome him?
Next case...
Enjoy your life in America, Ahmed!
"With his appearance in federal court today, Ahmed Ghailani is being held accountable for his alleged role in the bombing of U.S. Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya and the murder of 224 people," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a news release.
"The Justice Department has a long history of securely detaining and successfully prosecuting terror suspects through the criminal justice system, and we will bring that experience to bear in seeking justice in this case." ~~ God help us.
Why they are just babies.... /s
This guy was Laden’s right hand man? Holder seems to be incredibly ignorant of the ramifications of bringing this type of person to the U.S.
How did they prove who he is? How did they find out where he was? How do they know what he did?
The government will now have to prove these things in court. They will have to betray people and or reveal what electronics capabilities we have. They’ll have to reveal how we use those capabilities, and what tactics we use to make them as effective as possible.
Even if a judge does rule these facts to have to be revealed in closed court, the defense attorney will learn these details and pass them on to the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
More U.S. Citizens will die as a result. Those who befriended us will die. Our electronic methods will be less effective, as the terrorists change their tactics.
Nice work Holder. Nice work Obama.
These are things you can’t put back in the tube, after you squeeze it.
Hi Starwise. I’m usually the last person to think in racial terms, but this time I can’t help wondering if this Ahmed Ghailani was the first one moved to the U.S. because he’s black.
Never fear, DoughtyOne. While this is happening, "real" conservatives are out there making the world safe from "RINO's," thereby clearing the way for more Obama types to win elections. Ideological purity is what counts, after all, and not the hard work of building winning coalitions.
BTW, there was a time when a topic like this would have been a 200- or 300-post thread on FR, easy. All that ideological purity sure cleaned this place up -- or is it out.
And you’re probably right. This is THE
most blatantly race-affected and directed
admin ever.
I’m not sure why I didn’t respond to this the other day. Perhaps I read it and realized it wouldn’t do much good to plow ground we’ve already been over. Perhaps I just overlooked it in the midst of a bunch of other replies I need to respond to. At any rate, I’d like to respond to it now.
It’s my perception that coalitions can help, if the members of the coalition are mostly headed in the right direction.
Look, Ronald Reagan formed a coalition with what became the Reagan Democrats. I believe that was a wholesome coalition. Reagan didn’t praise leftist policy to form that coalition. He didn’t adopt leftist policy to form the coalition. He explained what his views were and why, and enough Democrats were able to identify with those ideals, that they joined Reagan, and not the other way around.
What we face today is people in our party who praise leftists and leftist policy in order to form their vision of what a coalition should be. What we wind up with in that situation is a person who has sold out on what the party believes in, to form a coalition. And the end result of this is that we have to bend our desires, to keep that coalition together.
If ever there were a time to exemplify that this type of coalition is bad, it would be the first six years of the Bush Administration. During that period of time we had the White House and Congress in our hip pocket. Yet during that time we were so busy reaching out, that we accomplished a pittance of what we should have.
Look at the difference when a Democrat has the majority. They aren’t bashful at all about going for every single goal they desire to attain. When we get the majority, we act as if we might actually step on some Democrat’s feet, and we walk around as if on eggshells.
The result of this is that we don’t push for our agenda. We barely hold even. Do you think Obama is barely holding even? Did he have to morph his views to win? Please explain the coalition Obama created to win the election.
He just talked about all the leftist stuff he wanted to do, and people bought into it. Did he win Conservatives over to his side, in order to win?
I don’t honestly understand what you hope to gain by obtaining a coalition at any cost. We’ve seen what that gets us.
The bailout last fall was formed by a coalition. The stimulus this spring was formed by a coalition. Immigration reform will come via a coalition. Closing Gitmo will come by a coalition. Gutting our military purchase programs will come by a coalition.
Do you see any of this as a positive for Conservatism?
You can have all the coalitions you want, but that doesn’t mean it will be productive for Conservatism.
Right now there isn’t an election just around the corner. People are off doing other things. The forum is quiet for the most part. There is an ebb and flow here. Right now were in the ebb phase.
You’ll see long threads again with the old familiar names when we get down to the primaries next year. Hang in there.
The bell is tolling for the Conservative movement, because it has become so narrow and restrictive that it believes itself an island.
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