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Obviously no hope then, sounds like a breakup.
I had a slim hope that possibly there could be people in life rafts after a successful water landing.
Wow, they don’t even need an accident investigation
They already know the whole story
How many airliners have been brought down by lightning vs terrorists?
(the bit about a high ranking al Qaeda operative being arrested in Brazil last week-—only a coincidence)
How do they know it wasn’t a jolly terrorist attack? Lightning doesn’t sound at all likely or convincing. Terrorism, on the other hand...
This is the same aircraft that Nothrup-Grumman and EADS wanted us to buy as a new refueling tanker?
Which "black box"?
This makes me want to cry, what a terrifying thing to go through, especially for the little children.
Prayers!!
Well...I doubt the lightning BS...When I was flying in KC-130s in the Marines we were struck twice....the second one put a hole in the radome the size of a fist....but I’m still here to talk about it. No, something other then a lightning strike brought this aircraft down.
They are gone. Prayers for the families.
Ah yes, lightning strike - act of G*d - no insurance payouts - high fives all around
I know I'm being cynical but that is how I see it going at Air France and the insurance companies.
“The flight from Brazil was probably brought down by a lightning strike after hitting a fierce storm, the airline said today”
Still with the lightning BS. They don’t know, period. European carriers and Airbus especially, are masters at trying to get out from under liability lawsuits early. An act of God is easier to defend against, than negligence on the part of the crew or design flaws of the airframe manufacturer.
They’re just doing PR early, with a compliant news media. The CVR and FDR may tell a very different story than a Public Relations hack in Paris.
I know a man and his wife on the plane who worked for my company in Brazil. Please pray for them and their family members.
Rest in peace :( so very sad.
The flight should have passed somewhere near St. Peter and Paul rocks on the way to Cape Verde Islands. The rocks are about 1600 miles into the flight path. It would seem likely the flight should have been well past the rocks when they went down.
I spilled my coffee when I saw a breaking news report on the overhead TV about an A330 lost over the Atlantic. Say again, please...
I have been listening to the media talking heads and the aviation experts for about an hour since waking from my nap. Overall, I think the mainstream coverage is within the proverbial ball park on this one. I cannot believe I am saying this...
But, here are two things being reported with which I will disagree:
1. (Media says,"A bolt of lightning cannot, by itself, bring down a modern airliner.") A bolt of lightning could easily wreck an aircraft and cause a crash by itself. Yes, lightning strikes on aircraft occur everyday. I have been struck many times over my career. Usually, it is a non-event causing only minor damage or none at all. However, if an aircraft is in the vicinity of a very large thunderstorm, it could be struck by a super bolt of lightning reeking total havoc with disastrous results.
2. (Media says,"Turbulence cannot, by itself, bring down a modern airliner.")Turbulence could easily wreck an aircraft and cause a crash by itself. Severe turbulence in the vicinity of a very large thunderstorm, or even a lesser one, has to be experienced to be believed. I have been inside thunderstorms several times in my career. It is unavoidable when you are a professional pilot. Anyone who disagrees with the previous sentence has not flown enough miles or has been very lucky. As a Line pilot, I go to great, even extreme lengths to stay out of thunderstorms for obvious reasons. Passengers pay me to deliver them safely to their loved ones.
A thunderstorm is a violent and scary entity. It has the power, and I mean real power, to easily rip the wings from an A330, or any other make or model of aircraft. No problem whatsoever.
On the automatic radio messages sent to Mother... Yep, Fi-Fi will send a message to the mainframe (think H.A.L.) when certain key malfunctions have occurred. It is a design feature of the Airbus Industries aircraft. Think you can hide a pesky malfunction from Mother so that you can do that last turn of the day and get home to Momma? You better be careful.
I will put forward two scenarios that may have happened to this jet:
First- Struck by a super bolt which fried the electronics causing depressurization, loss of electrical power and finally, a high altitude upset in IFR conditions (dark, turbulent, scary) leading to catastrophe.
Second- Encountered severe turbulence between or in thunderstorms. Airframe damage and/or failure leads to depressurization, loss of electrical power and finally, disaster.
Whatever happened, it was not pretty. The pax were terrified and the pilots were surely fighting until impact.
An A330 has crashed in the Atlantic... That fact is unbelievable.
Life on the Line continues...
So, is this an overseas contingency or a man-made disaster?