Posted on 05/28/2009 5:49:24 AM PDT by kellynla
What if they stole your idea or infringed on your patent and sold your item for 1/2 of what your were selling it for?
Sorry, I would take the union made items anyday..especially with the chicoms.
A major refinery in the Midwest prohibits the purchase of valves and piping materials from Mainland China. Quality problems, as in casting being very questionable, where the risk would be prohibitive. BTW, the management of the company is quite libertarian.
One major pharmaceutical company tried moving production to China, and found the exact kind of quality fade cited in this article.
Very few of the factories that were shut down in the US and moved to china were union. In manufacturing, unions comprise a small number. Union membership today is mostly made up of gov't employees, teachers, service workers etc
China has been arming Iran and giving them technological info, they hamper our efforts with the Norks, make deals with Chavez and other enemies of the US, prop up dictators in Africa and who knows what else.
History is not yet written on what damage our "friends" the chinese will do to the US in the long term.
Agreed and these are the unions (along with the UAW) that I personally have the biggest problems with. However I recall when all the shoe manufacturers and other manufacturing packed up and left the unionized Northeast for greener non-union pastures in the sun-belt. I don't remember too many tears coming from the sun-belt. How is what Chinese manufacturing has done to Amnerican manufacturing much different than what Southern and Western manufacturing did to Northeastern manufacturing? Capitalism is like that, no?
I have a serious problem with our manufcaturing plants going to a communist country that plays war games against us and hacks into the pentagon sometimes 10,000 times per day.
How you can compare the migration of plants from the North to the South with the migration of plants from the US to communist China is beyond me.
But non-communist places are OK with you?
I think the reason so many chuck a booters from CA (particularly in the Smogland Empire) are "conservative" is because so many worked in the defense industry back when CA had a defense industry.
Great post Kelly.
Apparently, you did not understand part of the text nor my statement which stated that this has been going on long before Communism. It was apparent under the nationalists as well.
Yes, to a degree. Those non communist countries would also have to respect our patents and technological rights and not hamper exports from the US to their country like China does on a regular basis. I'm not against free trade but want fair free trade.
Also, the point i was trying to make with the guy in the bar was that he was being hypocritical for blasting China then buying Chinese products. Sorry if you didn’t understand that as well.
I think we can both agree with the “fair free trade” talking point but like all things it comes down to picking your battles.
“a love of excuse and pretense, the elevation of appearance over substance, admiration for unprincipled cleverness, shame a much stronger sanction than guilt.”
Ok, which came first. did these traits come from china to the US or the other way around.
Because when it comes to making excuses and having style over substnce, I find it difficult to believe, anyone has it over the US.
Yeah, those chinese agents infiltrated wall street, and the banking industry. They blackmailed Madoff and Stanford into multibillion ponzi schemes. Ditto for Worldcom, Enron, Adelphia, Global Crossing. The got gettlefinger and the UAW to bankrupt our auto business so they could take over. They got Lehman, Countrywide, Merrill Lynch, WAMU to overleverage by trillions of dollars. They did the same with Freddie and Fannie.
Yep, I agree 100%, the chinese caused the US financial meltdown. Oh, the also put a drug in the US water supply to make us think Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are sound too.
I can assure you that if you actually read my posts, you would not be claiming that I said any such thing.
My implication is that people who buy cheap junk that is made in China instead of quality merchandise made in America are the ones who brought on this financial melt-down. This was entirely inflicted upon America by Americans.
you were wrong on your assessment and the authors proved you so...
“attention mao-mart customer”
the coolest wal-mart i have ever seen was in china. 3 stories with escalators made for shopping carts, it was so neat, but the produce department stank something awful.
For one thing, the expertise in whatever was being made stayed in this country. For another, the wages and taxes paid here were spent here.
We've gone from making things (creating wealth) to running tanning salons and pet boutiques (spending wealth) - not a good base for a national economy.
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