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Prop 8 Ruling A Blow To All Minorities (ALL? How So, When 70% Of Blacks Voted For Prop 8?
Washington Post ^ | 5/26/09 | Joel P. Engardio

Posted on 05/26/2009 5:03:07 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Prop 8 has made it a lot easier in California for a simple majority of voters to strip away the rights of an unpopular minority. What happens when it's your time to be the unpopular minority?

This is an exact description of democracy, and why the Founders, as well as the ancient Greeks, considered it a bad form of government. That is why we started out as a constitutional republic. The commies have been using the concept of "democracy", wherein every man gets a vote, to corrupt the country towards communism, because it is unfortunately easy to fool the ignorant masses into anything. This time it bit the homos in the butt, and not in the way that they like.
21 posted on 05/26/2009 5:44:23 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

People don’t become minorities based on who they have sex with. Its a strawman’s argument.


22 posted on 05/26/2009 5:45:46 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If in fact this ruling is a blow to minorities as the Post claims, it is not the California Supreme Court’s fault. The California constitution is extremely easy to amend. All an amendment requires once on the ballot is a simple majority vote.


23 posted on 05/26/2009 5:48:17 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Liberals characterize disagreement with them as an assault on the Constitution. Of course its upholding the Constitution when a decision is in their favor. They will never be happy with being told "NO!"

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

24 posted on 05/26/2009 5:55:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
This ruling is going to lead to an immediate discrimination case by the losers. Their case will be because they didn't marry in the time frame it was 'legal' now they are being discriminated against because they waited.

You watch and see.

25 posted on 05/26/2009 5:57:44 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Politicians: When they're not lying, they're stealing.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
They're bigoted against blacks, Hispanics and people of faith. By hating others, liberals hope to rally people around them. Dream on!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

26 posted on 05/26/2009 5:58:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

idot. How does a lifestyle choice equal an inherent quality such as your race?


27 posted on 05/26/2009 6:02:41 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It reafirms that marrage s between a man and woman.

No supposed right has been forfeited by this vote. You wanted to change the definiton legally and culturally.


28 posted on 05/26/2009 6:06:41 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome
Gays can still be partners and form civil unions. They are not being deprived now nor will they ever be - of any right they enjoy under California law. The whole "marriage equality" argument is bogus BS.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

29 posted on 05/26/2009 6:10:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Load of bunk from the Washington Post; best ignored.


30 posted on 05/26/2009 6:18:13 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Your post was very interesting about Daily Kos.

While not an attorney, my take:

If they openly advocate keeping Black and Hispanic turnout low, that is a federal crime. It clearly constitutes "voter supression". If they engage in it in a group, in some kind of coordination and in specific action-type language, they could also be guilty of RICO violations--certainly federal civil rights and voting rights statutes.

I think a federal crime is being committed.

31 posted on 05/26/2009 6:23:57 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (History Buffs: At What Point Did The German People "Get" They Had A Monster (Hitler) On Their Hands?)
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To: italianquaker

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!


32 posted on 05/26/2009 6:31:56 PM PDT by Larry R. Johnson (Remember when "gay" meant "happy"?)
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To: goldstategop

:-)


33 posted on 05/26/2009 7:07:55 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Why hasn’t Daily Kos pulled this thread?

Can they pull this thread?

It would seem so.


34 posted on 05/26/2009 7:21:01 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I would rather they continue a bit, get flagged by the Justice Department, get indicted and get shut down.


35 posted on 05/26/2009 7:33:23 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (History Buffs: At What Point Did The German People "Get" They Had A Monster (Hitler) On Their Hands?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oh yes it’s the ole “anything we can’t get popular support for we’ll just declare it to be a civil right.”


36 posted on 05/26/2009 8:55:17 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Loud Mime
The "liberal" agenda would never be successful if they stopped finding “victims”
. . . because "liberals" (I took the liberty of inserting scare quotes around the word in your original post because "liberals" are about suppressing liberty and are better styled governmentists) subsist by criticizing, condemning, and complaining. That is the natural behavior of associated journalism. Because without the check of internal competition, associated journalism naturally promotes itself by tearing down everyone else's reputation.

Governmentists are called "liberals" because advocacy of liberty - true liberalism - was popular, and the opposite - what I call governmentism - failed under the brand name "socialism" in America. So in the 1920s in America the journalists helped those who helped themselves (i.e. who helped journalism promote itself by criticizing the productive) by inverting the meaning of "liberalism."

And so we need a different word than "liberal" to describe those who stole our label and ran it into the ground. I coined "governmentism" as maximally descriptive since governmentists systematically choose to use euphemisms (e.g., "the public sector," "public schools," or "society") for the word "government." They will say, "Society must feed the children," and mean nothing other than that government should do it.


37 posted on 05/27/2009 3:57:05 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Agreed.

Also, the famous pro-SSM argument goes:

“There is no down side to expanding rights
in this way.”

Wrong.

When rights are given, other rights are removed.

The right of parents to teach that homosexuality is
wrong.

This kind of normalization of homosexuality is
really what they’re after. So they should just
ask us to think of them as normal. Don’t change
a basic societal institution to accomplish
normalization. That way we can choose and
our rights are not diminished.

Talk about a win-win!


38 posted on 05/27/2009 9:02:37 AM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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