Posted on 05/15/2009 6:11:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
OK, those are the percentage rates for out of wedlock births for those groups. Does anyone have the welfare rates for those same groups?
I'll bet that welfare follows that same line.
As Congress demonstrates, one does not have to be born out-of-wedlock to be considered a bastard. ;-)
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I believe it was the early Romans who prohibited several classes of people from holding public office: Those of illegitimate birth (bastards), eunuchs and homosexuals.
While these children had no choice in the matter, bastards were prohibited because, having no sense of their family past or history, they could not be trusted to operate for the good of the culture based on its history or traditions.
Eunuchs (castrated males) and homosexuals because they could not and/or would not sire children and would, therefore, most likely have no abiding interest in preserving the culture for future generations.
While there are a number of exceptions, I’ll let YOU tell me what sort of folks we have in public office HERE.
I suspect America has employed technology to compress into slightly over 240 years what it took the Romans over 2,000 to achieve — total and utter collapse.
Bingo ! We have a winner !
I volunteer with a Christian ministry to young girls in prison. The problem is not accidental pregnancy. These girls are expected to get pregnant before marriage to bring in the “family income.” There are times that pressure comes from their own mothers and other maternal relatives.
Actually, it is not so simple. The democrats have a vested interest in keeping over half of the country dependent on their policies. This is not a logical debate; it’s a power grab.
Until the married families begin to breed as much as the underclass, the votes will go to the dems, no matter how terrible their policies. Their constituents don’t keep up with the news, they just want to get their support checks.
I have 7 kids and a wife of over 15 years.
You have the best kind of wealth the one that lasts. :)
Bears repeating!
Immigration is part of it. The Hispanic out of wedlock birthrate, about 50%, is driving a lot of this.
Hispanic Family Values? Runaway illegitimacy is creating a new U.S. underclass.
“Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy. (In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down. Given what psychologists and sociologists now know about the much higher likelihood of social pathology among those who grow up in single-mother households, the Hispanic baby boom is certain to produce more juvenile delinquents, more school failure, more welfare use, and more teen pregnancy in the future.”
The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. The Hispanic birthrate is twice as high as that of the rest of the American population. That high fertility rate—even more than unbounded levels of immigration—will fuel the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades. By 2050, the Latino population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. One in four Americans will be Hispanic by mid-century, twice the current ratio. In states such as California and Texas, Hispanics will be in the clear majority. Nationally, whites will drop from near 70 percent of the total population in 2000 to just half by 2050. Hispanics will account for 46 percent of the nation’s added population over the next two decades, the Pew Hispanic Center reports.
But it’s the fertility surge among unwed Hispanics that should worry policymakers. Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate. But the black population is not going to triple over the next few decades.
It is simple. Not easy, but simple, as many of the right and true things in life are.
No, it started with an uptick in bastardy in black families in the 1940's. "Colored films" of the 30's through the early 50's, shot in parts of American cities inhabited by "colored" families, incidentally recorded intact families led by breadwinners and tended by full-time moms. Fast forward to the "blaxploitation" films of the 70's, and it's as if a bomb has gone off in Harlem and every other black neighborhood, killing 75% of the fathers and turning the rest of the male population into hustlers, criminals, and cops.
Sen. Pat Moynihan of New York tried to start a big discussion about this in 1966 but was shouted down by the "civil rights leadership" of his day.
The cause was the adoption by social agencies of an old Jewish family-aid formula, of direct payments to a needy, widowed mother. That formula worked in the tightly-knit Jewish community, which had a lot of social-role reinforcement, but it's been a disaster since it was extended to non-Jews who didn't have the social-services (and social-obligations) network that the Jewish community did. Fathers left their families in order to enable mothers to receive checks, and the rest is some very sad social history, which has spread from the black community to just about every other group and subgroup.
But if you're looking for the worm in the apple, direct subsidies was it.
What are you talking about? Liberals incentives with tax credits all the time. They just use cognitive dissonance based on their level of cognition.
Where do liberals give “tax credits”?
To those who don’t pay taxes, or to their cronies. They don’t do tax credits for any incentive reason, they do it for redistribution or payoffs.
I understand your point, that they conveniently ignore or apply reality, but the tax credit point, I don’t think, is a valid example.
I believe it was the early Romans who prohibited several classes of people from holding public office: Those of illegitimate birth (bastards), eunuchs and homosexuals.
While these children had no choice in the matter, bastards were prohibited because, having no sense of their family past or history, they could not be trusted to operate for the good of the culture based on its history or traditions.
Eunuchs (castrated males) and homosexuals because they could not and/or would not sire children and would, therefore, most likely have no abiding interest in preserving the culture for future generations.
While there are a number of exceptions, I’ll let YOU tell me what sort of folks we have in public office HERE.
I suspect America has employed technology to compress into slightly over 240 years what it took the Romans over 2,000 to achieve — total and utter collapse.
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A “Crowding out” phenomenon — while condoms *sometimes* actually work to prevent pregnancy and STDs, often they do not, especially in the extremely emotionally charged and rushed event of sex. Yet the ADVICE to use them “crowds out” all other advice.
The best advice: Sex is only safe in long-term, faithful marriage.
The pro-eugenics pro-liberal arts attitude of Harlem Renaissance major player DuBois versus the conservation and tech school sure and conservative approach of Booker T Washington.
DuBois supported Sanger.
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