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Ted Turner Claims China Doesn't Use "Draconian Steps" in One-Child Policy...
LifeSiteNews.com -- Your Life, Family and Culture Outpost ^ | Tuesday May 12, 2009 | By Alex Bush and John Jalsevac

Posted on 05/12/2009 3:55:33 PM PDT by topher

Tuesday May 12, 2009


Ted Turner Claims China Doesn't Use "Draconian Steps" in One-Child Policy, but Simply "Encourages" One Child

By Alex Bush and John Jalsevac

WASHINGTON, D.C., May 12, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Last week, during a radio interview on the Diane Rehm Show, Ted Turner, the billionaire founder of CNN, claimed that China has not used "draconian steps" in its one-child policy, but rather simply "encourages" people to limit the number of children per family to one. (To listen to the interview, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTME9ahQBWM)

However, as recently as this past month a researcher with the Population Research Institute (PRI) confirmed during a trip to China that coercive measures, including forced abortion, imprisonment, crippling fines, and kidnapping are routinely used by the Chinese government in the effort to enforce their one-child policy. This fact has been verified by numerous other independent human rights organizations and researchers over the last several decades.

In 2005 Amnesty International released a report that stated that, in China, "Serious violations against women and girls continued to be reported as a result of the enforcement of the family planning policy, including forced abortions and sterilizations."

Turner said during the recent interview that the word "control" in the term "population control" raises "a lot of bad connotations," since "people don't want to be controlled." But, he said, he believes in family planning "as long as it's voluntary."

"The Chinese, and I think wisely, instituted a one-child policy," he continued. "And they put in penalties, tax penalties and so forth, for people who have more than one child. But they're still a billion and half people in China, and, if you've been over there, it's so over-crowded you can barely turn around."

Turned continued on to claim that "they've done it without draconian - as far as I can see - draconian steps. They do encourage people to have one child."

At that point Diane Rehm interjected that "they've done more than encourage on several occasions."

"Well, I'm not intimately familiar with everything," Turner responded.

John Smeaton, director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC), responded to the comments by accusing Turner of basically "denying the Holocaust" in claiming that China has not used "Draconian steps."

"The Chinese regime's 30-year record of infanticide, forced abortion, forced sterilization, torture, imprisonment and other crimes is so voluminous that Turner's comments are analogous to denying the Holocaust," he said.

Earlier this month Colin Mason of the Population Research Institute returned from China with documented and clear evidence that the use of coercive measures by Chinese officials is alive and well. Mason summed up his findings, saying, "Crippling fines, intense pressure to be sterilized, the flagrant display of quota information, and even the seizure of 'illegal children' by the government are commonplace." (See: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032501.html)

PRI president Steve Mosher also commented on Mason's investigation, saying, "What struck me … as someone who has been following the policy for three decades, was how the fines for 'illegal' children have increased in recent years. The fines for having an illegal child are now three to five times the family's income. The equivalent fine in the U.S. would be $150,000 - $250,000. Couples have to mortgage their future for decades - literally - in order to be able to borrow enough money to pay off these fines."

Mosher also observed that, "Colin's findings are consistent with the results of earlier investigations carried out by PRI. In 2001, for example, PRI sent a team of investigators into China to look into the UNFPA's 'model family planning' program, specifically its claim that forced abortions and forced sterilizations are a thing of the past. While in country, we interviewed over two dozen victims and witnesses of coercion, and videotaped and audiotaped their answers. Those interviewed stated that voluntary family planning does not exist in the UNFPA's 'model' program and that forced abortions continue to occur."

See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

UNFPA Supports Coercive Family Planning-Including Forced Abortion-in China
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2001/oct/011005c.html

China's One-Child Terror Campaign Continues
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/jul/07071008.html

Chinese Government to Increase Fines for Violating One-Child Policy
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09011614.html

On-the-Ground China Investigation Re-Confirms UNFPA Complicit in Coercive One-Child Policy
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032501.html

One-Child Policy Opponent Tortured in Chinese Labour Camp
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2004/oct/041008b.html

Forced Abortion Still A Reality in China Says New Amnesty Report
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/may/05052706.html

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From the article:

In 2005 Amnesty International released a report that stated that, in China, "Serious violations against women and girls continued to be reported as a result of the enforcement of the family planning policy, including forced abortions and sterilizations."

Hasn't the MSM been reporting this serious problem every day? No, that all right -- it is okay to sterilize girls and force girls to have abortions. These are things that are Politically Correct...

Sorry, my bad... China is just following in Obama's footsteps (or is it that Obama is following in China's footsteps)...

[/sarcasm off]

1 posted on 05/12/2009 3:55:33 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher

Sure Ted....By the way how’s that Billion dollars you gave the UN working out????


2 posted on 05/12/2009 3:58:54 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: topher

Good to see this stalwart defender of communism doing what he does best.


3 posted on 05/12/2009 3:59:30 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: topher

He’s going to die someday.


4 posted on 05/12/2009 4:00:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Tom has my harmonica! Give him the snake!")
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To: topher
""they've done more than encourage on several occasions."

It looks like we have a first candidate for understatement of the century.

Diane Riehm and Ted Turner don't have a brain between them, and apparently not a soul either.

5 posted on 05/12/2009 4:00:35 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: topher

Ted Turner is an idiot, along with his wife.


6 posted on 05/12/2009 4:01:28 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Tax-chick

Not soon enough! Also is he married to Hanoi JANE the traitor!
Not if he believes China!!SARC///


7 posted on 05/12/2009 4:08:15 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: jakerobins
Mouth of the South....
Consider the source...

Move along...
Nothing to see here

8 posted on 05/12/2009 4:35:55 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: topher
China needs to end their one child policy. They (the Communist Party) credit the policy for limiting the population by as much as 300 million people. Why on God's green earth would Chinese want to limit the number of Chinese in this world. It makes no sense whatsoever and is totally illogical. I think it would have been great to know that there would be 1.6 billion Chinese instead of 1.3 billion today.

It would be great, someday, to once again see very large Chinese families (6, 8, 10, or more kids :)

9 posted on 05/12/2009 4:46:09 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: topher

This is a man who claims to regret having his own five children.


10 posted on 05/12/2009 4:59:01 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: All

Good God! WHAT is wrong with that man???!


11 posted on 05/12/2009 5:03:09 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: All
"Well, I'm not intimately familiar with everything," Turner responded."

Well, SHUT UP, then!!!!

12 posted on 05/12/2009 5:04:49 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: topher

“”Well, I’m not intimately familiar with everything,” Turner responded”

This from the CNN founder sure explains a lot about their coverage of the news!


13 posted on 05/12/2009 5:24:22 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: jakerobins

Of course they don’t. Ripping a baby from his mother’s arms and drowning him in a mud puddle outside is not the least bit draconian. It’s completely normal.


14 posted on 05/12/2009 5:28:12 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: jakerobins

My wife grew up in China. She says otherwise.


15 posted on 05/12/2009 5:28:40 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Mouth of the South....

Oh, please. I live in the Atlanta area. That puke doesn't speak for us.

16 posted on 05/12/2009 5:29:59 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: topher

He is, in fact, manic depressive, and from time to time goes off his meds. This is one of those times.


17 posted on 05/12/2009 7:49:29 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: GingisK
Dont get your panties in a bunch....

Just a word of explanation...

No one claims TT as a spokesman....

But back in his most animated days as a big-league entrepreneur...
--"Captain Outrageous" -- sailing the America's cup...
--Buying the Braves...
--Channel 17 Ssuperstation...
--And over the drawing board for CNN...

His brash statements and in your face dumbass public remarks...
Earned Ted the moniker I used in my reply....
The MSM common-taters used the nickname all the time.
Sooooo ... strictly a historical remembrance...

Life is tough -- wear a cup!

18 posted on 05/13/2009 6:33:30 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Life is tough -- wear a cup!

It seems that you severly overestimate my emotional attachment to this issue.

19 posted on 05/13/2009 6:43:07 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: topher
Pinged from Terri Dailies


20 posted on 05/13/2009 4:36:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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