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1 posted on 05/05/2009 1:47:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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2 posted on 05/05/2009 1:48:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

I’ll make it easy for him. No no no no no no. Simple.


3 posted on 05/05/2009 1:51:26 PM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- Looking for the silver lining in every cloud, since 1998)
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To: calcowgirl

ping


4 posted on 05/05/2009 1:55:24 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for posting!

Thought provoking on D and E.

agree on F and self-interest and ‘perverse’ angle.


5 posted on 05/05/2009 1:56:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: blueplum; pointsal

FYI Ping.


14 posted on 05/05/2009 2:10:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
I'd support a proposition that turns California back into a part-time Legislature.

I bet all legislators will become anti-tax crusaders when they are forced to go and earn a living

15 posted on 05/05/2009 2:22:27 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: calcowgirl

I’m voting no on all of them.


17 posted on 05/05/2009 2:27:04 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: calcowgirl

Already sent my ballot in and there are no good measures on it, voted no on all of them! Sorry, Tom, but that is how I see it.


25 posted on 05/05/2009 3:07:51 PM PDT by calex59
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To: growlingrizzlybear

Yo - Codg?


26 posted on 05/05/2009 3:11:02 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: calcowgirl

I appreciate the effort, but I am more inclined to simple vote “NO” from top to bottom.


27 posted on 05/05/2009 3:17:06 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: calcowgirl

Just...Say....NO


31 posted on 05/05/2009 5:31:50 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property)
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To: calcowgirl

Vote no on D&E. They are currently allocated to local community services. The state wants to feed it back to fund the bureacracy.


32 posted on 05/05/2009 6:11:51 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: calcowgirl
I love Tom McClintock (but then you already knew that). :-)

I'm still voting no on all six measures, despite the temptation to vote yes on D & E. There's at least one gnashing-of-teeth letter-to-the-editor a day bemoaning the "mean-spirited" cuts that hurt our chilllllldren and crazy people. ;-)

33 posted on 05/05/2009 6:55:09 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: calcowgirl

No money. I don’t want them to have any money. All programs GONE. All bearureacrats GONE (WITH THEIR NEVER-ENDING PENSIONS & BENEIFITS THAT NOBODY ELSE GETS). The programs have nothing to do with helping people. The programs are designed to pay-off union members & consolidate politician’s place in office — forever. GOVERNMENT IS A LIE — A CROOKED LIE. LET THEM ALL GO BROKE. NOT A DIME. NOT A PENNY FOR “CHILDREN” THE “POOR” “SOCIAL JUSTICE” NOR ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE IT’S A LIE — IT’S ALL FOR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE. GOVERNMENT IS A LIE. LET THEM GO BROKE. I’ll help my friend & neighbor — don’t need a state PENSIONED empmployee to do it.


34 posted on 05/05/2009 7:09:28 PM PDT by Bhoy (TEA PARTY ON!)
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To: calcowgirl

A concerned friend of mine sent this to me, which might better explain why many property owners in CA (or renters who will ultimately face higher rents as a result) are frustrated.
Just an FYI if this should interest you.


[WHY VOTE NO] on CALIFORNIA PROPOSITIONS 1A-through-1F (2009) — MORE LIES FROM THE UNION ACTIVISTS?

I just received a 4-page mailer of lies that says …

Families have to live within their means. Our state government should, too.”

“Limit politicians’ spending & stabilize California’s budget.”

“Vote Yes on May 19th to put California’s economy back on track!”

Which are, in my humble opinion, outright lies …

There is nothing in these propositions which will limit the profligate and outrageous spending of the legislature’s liberal democrats as they continue to pursue spending policies which benefits social engineering, support of illegal aliens, providing better contracts to government employee unions and paying off the state’s developers and other special interests. In fact, there is a loophole which will allow government spending to rise as revenues rise – so where is the budget limit they state?

There is nothing in these propositions that will put California’s economy back on track. What is actually required is for the housing market to stabilize; job losses to be reversed; government taxes, fees, rules and regulations altered to encourage businesses to remain in California; and a reduction in overall legislative spending.

The ONE thing Californians NEED TO KNOW …

Acceptance of these propositions will INCREASE the taxes Californians must pay … by extending the taxes for another two years! Something that they forget to tell you in the brochure designed to mislead you into insuring that politicians, government workers, unionized employees and the special interests have wages, perks, benefits and a retirement far superior to anything that is available to the ordinary worker in the private sector.

Look what they say about the individual propositions …

Proposition 1A – “Budget Stabilization: Restricts state spending in the future and forces the state to put money into a rainy day account for future economic downturns.”

The proposition not only does not stabilize the budget – which was passed by corrupt and complacent politicians in both the Assembly and the Senate and signed by Governor “I vant to be loved” Schwarzenstupid – but it increases your tax burden for another two years. The “rainy day account” is little more than a political slush fund which can be used at the discretion of those who have already spent our golden state into near bankruptcy.

Proposition 1B — “Education Funding: Requires that schools and community colleges get paid back amounts recently cut from their budgets when the economy improves.”

Excuse me … but where is the correlation between the amount of money spent on education and the actual results as demonstrated by student scores. In the Los Angeles Unified School District, and elsewhere, 50% of the students are failing to graduate – and many of those that do manage to graduate are severely handicapped by an inferior educational system. Why does the state refuse to test teacher competency? Why does the state refuse to allow school vouchers? This is just another funding mechanism for the corrupt teacher’s unions which support the democrat party. If the unions really believed “it’s about the children,” they would abandon their seniority policies and replace them with “teacher competency” policies.

Proposition 1C — “Modernizing the Lottery: Modernize the lottery so we get more revenues for schools. Helps prevent more teacher layoffs.”

What a crock of bull. If those who ran the lottery could modernize the system, they would have done it long ago. And consider the morality of encouraging gambling when a much better return on your money is to take care of yourself and your family. It is a dirty little secret in the school budgeting world – but the educational system reduces their budget contributions by an amount equal to the anticipated lottery revenues. There is no extra money for the “children” as if the money actually were spent in the classroom. Truth be told, most educational spending is on infrastructure, administrators and unionized teachers. At some of the highest pay rates in the nation.

Proposition 1D — “Children’s Services Funding: Temporarily redirects unspent funds to pay for children’s health and social services.”

This is a direct subsidy to the illegal aliens who are destroying our healthcare, educational, judicial, retirement, social and cultural infrastructure. The number of illegal aliens having “anchor babies” in California and receiving social services is not only staggering, it is one of the main reasons for our current fiscal condition.

Proposition 1E – “Mental Health Funding: Temporarily redirects unspent funds to help pay for children’s health programs including health care screening, diagnosis and treatment.

Déjà vu all over again. Read Proposition 1D – and ask yourself why we have so many mentally ill people roaming the streets in California? The socialistic legislators believe that the citizens of California need to pay for free and universal healthcare and it should start with the children; including those who are illegal aliens.

Proposition 1F — “Legislative Salary Freeze: Prohibits state elected officials from getting salary increases when the state has a budget deficit.”

Is sounds like a prudent measure, but like everything else proposed in the political arena it is highly misleading. Legislators can increase their tax “per diem” expenses and up their state-owned car allowances. They can reduce the amount of money they pay the state to compensate for the use of state property and vehicles. Or, they can simply convert some of their “donations” into personal benefits. Another indication of the duplicitous nature of California’s politicians. How about a proposition that says that legislators will receive 80% of their salary in tough times and forfeit their salaries for each and every day that the state does not have a balanced budget? Or forfeit their state benefits if they are caught in corrupt and illegal practices? Or how about keeping spouses and children from getting high-paying jobs which require little or no work and provides little or no benefit to the State of California? How about keeping “termed out” politicians off boards which pay six-figure salaries for minimal attendance and work?

Bottom line …

This mess was created by the politicians and they should not be receiving a lifeline which will further cripple California’s economy and drive law-abiding tax-paying citizens out of state – ONLY to be replaced with more easily controlled illegal aliens as they wait for President Barack Obama’s conditional amnesty program. By the way, the Obama plan does not require any loyalty to the United States and dual citizenship is still permitted.


35 posted on 05/05/2009 7:11:31 PM PDT by heatherlund (Obama is a socialist . No thanks! MCCain/Palin 2008)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for posting. I take his advice pretty seriously when I need to parse out the essentials of the various initiatives.


36 posted on 05/05/2009 7:17:36 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: calcowgirl
I disagree with Tom McClintock on D and E.

Voters approved those additional taxes to fund XYZ special programs, which voters thought were worthy of getting extra funding, not for the general fund. This happens with gas taxes all the time (except that they don't ask us) -- raise gas taxes to improve roads, and then raid the gas tax collection fund while leaving the roads in disrepair. If the legislators wanted to raise taxes for the general fund, then they should have asked directly.

No on all six 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1E, 1F.

40 posted on 05/05/2009 10:08:24 PM PDT by heleny
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To: calcowgirl

thanks for the ping! I’m glad to see McClintock questioning 1d and 1e.

Sac Bee ran a recent article that the voters are apathetic about this special election - but I have a feeling we may surprise everyone with the turnout! :)


45 posted on 05/14/2009 3:32:24 PM PDT by blueplum
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