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GM Retirees organize to protect benefits
The Oakland Press (MI) ^ | May 5, 2009 | By JOSEPH SZCZESNY

Posted on 05/05/2009 7:17:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Retirees from both General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC have created organizations to protect their interests as their former employers are forced to reorganize in and out of bankruptcy court.

“For decades, GM retirees assumed their hard work would allow them to earn a secure retirement,” said John Christie, a retired GM engineer and president of the General Motors Retiree Association (GMRA), which was organized in March.

“When the Obama Administration says that GM will need to clear away old liabilities to survive, we’re afraid that we are the old liabilities,” Christie said.

(Excerpt) Read more at theoaklandpress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 05/05/2009 7:17:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The rank and file of the UAW could have been persuaded to vote GOP if we had really tried. What is good for the economy would have been good for GM and Chrysler. The UAW could have settled on easy terms for the automakers.
Instead..they always go for an All or Nothing strategy and go down in flames.
As I tell my Rat friends..you voted for him..so enjoy.


2 posted on 05/05/2009 7:21:17 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
GM Retirees organize to protect benefits

Then you shouldn't have voted for Obama

Actions have consequences

3 posted on 05/05/2009 7:22:06 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The UAW can keep the change. You voted for him; enjoy your retirement, suckas.


4 posted on 05/05/2009 7:22:45 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They were hustled during the election. The big con. The grift. They should feel dirty as they perform the walk of shame for laying down with him.


5 posted on 05/05/2009 7:23:43 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Hard work...” You call featherbedding hard work?


6 posted on 05/05/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Oldexpat

Easy terms? Sorry, the costs associated with retiree benefits are substantial. So substantial, that they are the difference between profit and loss - note that non-union automakers in the US have been profitable until recently. The bad news is that the UAW got itself a gold-plated deal with the help of the politicos is bought, BUT the business doesn’t earn enough to pay. Now the taxpayers are going to be on the hook. They shouldn’t be. My retirement plans shouldn’t be ruined by the corrupt deal the UAW made.


7 posted on 05/05/2009 7:27:32 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: catbertz

HA...they’re the HUSTLERS....they have loved the “hustling” for 50 years.....payback is a b*tch


8 posted on 05/05/2009 7:27:48 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: Oldexpat

These retirees of any bankruptcy should get no more no less than any other business owed money.

Whatever happened to Erisa, which was supposed to make sure all retirement benefits were paid up to date ??


9 posted on 05/05/2009 7:34:02 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Oldexpat

“As I tell my Rat friends..you voted for him..so enjoy.”

I feel the same way. The idiots who voted for Hussein are becoming duly concerned about what is happening to the country. Because of them, we’ve all been HAD.


10 posted on 05/05/2009 7:45:51 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: chatham
Whatever happened to Erisa...

I think that's part of the problem here. ERISA should apply to GM, Chrysler, et al, for non-union personnel, but the retirees don't want to be subject to the ERISA caps on retirement pay.
I think a sensible alternative to billions in taxpayer loans(handouts that will never be repaid) would have been to extent ERISA to all effected employees, union or not, and to put them all on Medicare. That would have been less expensive to the taxpayers who wind up footing the bill anyway.

11 posted on 05/05/2009 7:50:32 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s see - the retirees will be ‘reduced’ to Medicare. They will still get the same medical support that many of us are getting, or is there something about their former plans that denies them those benefits. I am really puzzled. I can understand the loss for those of working age, but genuine retirees - give me a break, I am unable to sympathize.


12 posted on 05/05/2009 7:51:27 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

UAW - The article isn’t even about the UAW, you wouldn’t know that from reading some of the comments.


13 posted on 05/05/2009 7:54:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
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To: Graybeard58

When GM goes into Bankruptcy next month, -— the Retirees should be held responcible for paying back every penny they borrowed from the US Taxpayers.

After all , —————they voted for Hussen Obama so they should pay back every red cent.

Then, —— they would learn what it is to be accountable for your actions!

I am going to throw a party when GM files for Bankruptcy!

It couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of people!


14 posted on 05/05/2009 8:03:43 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
As the saying goes, "expectation are merely deferred resentments."

Solution:

Expect nothing from no one.

15 posted on 05/05/2009 8:15:31 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Old North State
They are already on medicare and SS benefits. Their retirement should be sent to ERISA just like the retirements of all other bankrupt companies. They will then be able to either buy the supplemental insurance they have now, at the cost of several hundred $’s a month. Or they can get a Medicare + program from a private insurance company for free.

The problem is that many of these retirees never saved a nickle and expect the tax payers to keep them in their gold standard of living because they were ridiculously overpaid for a few decades of clock punching at Chrysler.

16 posted on 05/05/2009 8:20:47 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why should GM retirees be any different than military veterans?


17 posted on 05/05/2009 8:20:56 AM PDT by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Personally I hope they starve for what they did to this Country.
18 posted on 05/05/2009 8:34:24 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Jim from C-Town
The problem ... they were ridiculously overpaid for a few decades of clock punching at Chrysler.

Actually not. The employer and employee signed a contract, one just a legally binding as any other.
Whether it was responsible or not is another matter.

19 posted on 05/05/2009 8:35:05 AM PDT by ex91B10
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To: Graybeard58
You are correct these are the white collar retirees. O’Bummer is working on behalf of the UAW employees.
20 posted on 05/05/2009 9:19:17 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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