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Claw & Disorder (Madoff)
NY Post ^ | May 3, 2009 | James Doran

Posted on 05/04/2009 7:59:13 PM PDT by CutePuppy

Hundreds of victims of Ponzi scamster Bernie Madoff are spitting mad at Irving Picard, the court-appointed trustee of Madoff's estate, over what they claim is the capricious way he is moving to clawback money.

The group of 350 victims claims:

* Picard -- whose job is to collect as much of the $23 billion lost during the decades-long Madoff fraud -- is demanding repayment from victims facing an "undue hardship," even though he promised not to do so.

* The trustee refuses to speak with them when they reach out to him with questions or problems

* They are being shortchanged on any possible insurance recovery because Picard is using the money people originally invested ($23 billion) instead of final, fradulent account balances (an amount Madoff claimed totaled $65 billion).

"We have already lost everything we had to Madoff," said Debbie Brown, one of more than 200 victims who recently got a letter from Picard demanding the return of monies she withdrew from her Madoff account over the years.

"To find out that they want to clawback hundreds of thousands of dollars we no longer have is just terrible," said the 49-year-old woman, whose parents opened the account for her when she was a young girl. "I don't know what we are going to do."

Brown, an administrative assistant married to an auto mechanic, with two kids of college age, was stunned last month to receive the letter from Picard demanding more than $440,000 she withdrew from her accounts over the years.

She used much of the money to pay for her daughter's tuition.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berniemadoff; irvingpicard; madoff; madoffestate; ponzi
For some, justice... For some, unintended consequences...
1 posted on 05/04/2009 7:59:16 PM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: Liz

Didn’t see it posted. Madoff estate trustee Irving Picard is starting to “play” clawbacks.


2 posted on 05/04/2009 8:05:00 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Too bad-——under the legal principle of “fraudulent conveyance” they have to give it back.......... b/c legally one cannot profit from a fraud.

L/E is not taking into account Madoff was money laundering and aiding tax evasion.


3 posted on 05/04/2009 8:35:53 PM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date,)
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To: CutePuppy
Some guy painted a portrait of Bernie as he was going down for the count.


4 posted on 05/04/2009 8:40:04 PM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date,)
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To: Liz

Yeah, this is a non-government action. The most interesting and the worst aspects of the case - the Democratic political involvement and associated corruption (money laundering, campaign funds funneling, mafia participation) - haven’t really seen the light of day and at this point I don’t see much of it coming to the fore.

Madoff’s “confession” was designed to limit and control the damage, stop it at the old man’s “edge”... and it proved successful, whether his kin and family will pay the price or not. The serious collateral damage seems to have been contained.


5 posted on 05/04/2009 8:52:10 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
The serious collateral damage seems to have been contained.

Dante did not adequately describe the levels of hell for the politicians and others who enabled this. And for those who shut bernie up by promising life in a federal country club instead of a real prison.

6 posted on 05/04/2009 10:15:23 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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