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The truth about homosexuality and the Nazi Party
RenewAmerica.Us ^ | 5/15/08 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 05/02/2009 6:52:35 AM PDT by ReformationFan

The Interfaith Alliance, a far-left religious advocacy group in Idaho, has accused Scott Lively, a scheduled speaker at this weekend's "Shake the Nation" conference in Boise, of "bearing false witness" and of being "mean-spirited and hurtful."

Lively's crime? In his book, "The Pink Swastika," Lively exposes a secret homosexual activists don't want you to know about Nazi Germany: that although the Nazis did persecute homosexuals, the homosexuals the Nazis persecuted were almost exclusively the effeminate members of the gay community in Germany, and that much of the mistreatment was administered by masculine homosexuals who despised effeminacy in all its forms.

Ludwig Lenz worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin, which was destroyed by Hitler's Brown Shirts in 1933 likely because its records, including 40,000 confessions from members of the Nazi Party, would have exposed the sexual perversions of Nazi leadership. Lenz said that "not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal."

In fact, the Nazi Party began in a gay bar in Munich, and Ernst Roehm, Hitler's right hand in the early days of Nazism, was well-known for his taste in young boys. William Shirer says in his definitive "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," not only that Roehm was "important in the rise of Hitler," but also "like so many of the early Nazis, (he was) a homosexual."

Hitler eventually had Roehm shot, not because he was a homosexual but because his influence over the Brown Shirts made him a political threat to Hitler's control. The Roehm Purge, or "Night of the Long Knives," was largely implemented by homosexuals.

Hitler's Brown Shirts, the dreaded SA, better known as "Storm Troopers," were the creation of another homosexual, Gerhard Rossbach, and Storm Troopers were almost exclusively homosexual.

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This editorial is almost a year old but still as relevant as ever. After seeing the Left go beserk and say anyone who ever disagrees with a homosexual for any reason is a "Nazi", they seem to forget that homosexuality was quite prevalent among the Nazis. There's even a scene in the 1960 film "Exodus" with a Jewish holocaust survivor comments that his Nazi guards used him as a "woman", so this is a matter of historical fact along with the Nazis being pro-gun control(another historical fact the left so easily forgets).
1 posted on 05/02/2009 6:52:35 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Don’t forget that Nazis were also enviromentalists, anti-smoking and pro-vegetarianism.


2 posted on 05/02/2009 6:56:01 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: ReformationFan

The upper ranks of the Nazi Party was filled with perverts and sadists. Sadly, this not often mentioned in the ‘official revised’ history taught these days.


3 posted on 05/02/2009 6:56:14 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: ReformationFan
It is this way today the effeminate homosexuals are made fun of and abused by homosexuals that are not effeminate.
The bigotry in the homosexual community is ramped and very violent.
4 posted on 05/02/2009 6:56:59 AM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: ReformationFan
Yup. lots of homos in the Nazi party.

In a totalitarian state, you can pass all the laws you want. You just selectively enforce them against your enemies and ignore them for your friends. Fiendishly clever really.

Also, I know a couple of 'butch' gay guys who have disdain for their 'femme' gay colleagues. It is not unheard of at all.

5 posted on 05/02/2009 7:02:28 AM PDT by keithtoo (Question 'O' thority)
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Sorry. Himmler had any SS man who was involved in homosexuality shot. And after the Roehm purge in ‘34, open or quasi-open homosexuality rapidly disappeared [Roehm and the SA leadership were shot because they were perceived as too Red, not because so many of them were too lavender].

While there may have been individual instances of closeted homosexuals participating in the government of the Third Reich, and in the operation of the Security apparatus, I doubt the numbers warrant the extrapolation underlying the article.

6 posted on 05/02/2009 7:02:31 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Don’t forget that Nazis were also enviromentalists, anti-smoking and pro-vegetarianism.

Were they also cat people?

7 posted on 05/02/2009 7:08:36 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Hitler liked dogs. Kept GSDs. Tested the poison he and the Mrs. took on his dog Blondi.


8 posted on 05/02/2009 7:14:06 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think more Dachshund, Rottweiler and German Shepard people./sarc


9 posted on 05/02/2009 7:16:49 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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Gays are also deeply entrenched in our political system.

I graduated from a major university in the deep south and I know of several guys that were very involved with the SGA that turned out being gay. A lot of these SGA clowns end up being in politics after college too.

Gays are far more involved in our political system than people would think.


10 posted on 05/02/2009 7:19:36 AM PDT by boycott
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Were they also cat people?

Hey! I resemble that remark! I'm cat people and conservative - my cat even votes Republican all the way. ; )

11 posted on 05/02/2009 7:20:33 AM PDT by VA Red (This is going to be a long 4 years)
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To all

Read a book called “The Hidden Hitler”. It makes a pretty persuasive case that Hitler (and the core leadership of the SA) was homosexual. There was supposedly a Vienna police file on Hitler in his young “Bohemian artist” days regarding his activity as a male prostitute. The file of course has disappeared.
Hitler had Roehm killed and the SA suppressed because it was insistent on being “revolutionary” (too Red as someone earlier said!). Hitler had now had the power he wanted, there was no need for more revolution. Killing Roehm, suppressing the SA had the added benefit of removing those that knew something possibly tawdry about “Der Fuerher”, well that was icing on the cake.

12 posted on 05/02/2009 7:20:55 AM PDT by Reily ( .)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

and they loved show tunes......


13 posted on 05/02/2009 7:34:01 AM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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and they loved show tunes......


14 posted on 05/02/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: ReformationFan
Being a Nazi is so gay!
15 posted on 05/02/2009 7:44:10 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a blessing to live in the Ozarks.)
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Yes. Most ordinary people think that all homosexuals are pretty much interchangeable. Big mistake.

There are butch homosexuals and effeminate homosexuals, those who dominate and those who submit. In the Nazi party, there were plenty of butch homosexuals in the top ranks.

It’s much the same with Islam. Homosexuality is extremely common in the Arab world. Dominant homosexuals can do what they like, and submissive homosexuals are the ones who get hanged. It’s a kind of perverted reflection of the rules that say that it’s OK for a man to rape someone, but it’s the rape victim who gets stoned. Islam admires dominance and despises submission. But, of course, Islam MEANS submission, which is to say that everyone has to submit to whatever the Muslim leaders want.


16 posted on 05/02/2009 7:51:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ReformationFan

Theres lots of speculation about whats going on in our own govt.


17 posted on 05/02/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by blackminorca
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“Sorry. Himmler had any SS man who was involved in homosexuality shot.”

Oh, you were there, were you? Watched it all happen, first hand? Or is that you choose to believe some historical accounts while discounting others, and you’re right and everyone else is wrong. Those twisted fruits were used by the Nazi’s to do the dirty work, because they knew those twisted freaks would do it, without hesitation or remorse. Then, like most useful idiots in a socialist/commie country, they were eliminated once they served their purpose. But that doesn’t discount the vital role they played in establishing the Nazi party.


18 posted on 05/02/2009 8:18:16 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: blackminorca
WOW! That gave me a sick jolt.

There does seem to be a bit of effeminate or girlish behavior on the part of many liberals...it's a thing...ya see it and it registers but ya just ignore it. And likewise, there does seem to be something healthily masculine about conservatives. Again, ya see it and it registers but it never gets talked about..but it is there.

19 posted on 05/02/2009 8:25:28 AM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seine)
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To: Reily

In Liberal Fascism, Goldberg points out that any acolyte whose flavor of Marxism was a bit different than the Dear Leaders (either Fascist or Communist Dear Leader), or just plain pissed him off, was labeled as the other flavor of Marxist and executed.

Calling Roehm and others “revolutionary” or, more likely, “communist” was the kiss of death to this bunch.


20 posted on 05/02/2009 8:30:05 AM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat! Or one with a brain.)
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