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Life on other planets? You bet, says SETI pioneer
Seattle PI ^ | 4/30/.09 | MONICA GUZMAN

Posted on 04/30/2009 9:43:31 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

If you'd asked 20 years ago the question he's heard over and over -- whether humanity will discover extraterrestrial intelligence in his lifetime -- Frank Drake would have shrugged and said, "sure."

Today, the renowned astronomer, who turns 79 next month, admits the chances are slimming.

"It's going to be a close call," he said.

But even if Drake, professor emeritus of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California at Santa Cruz, doesn't see the day we learn we're not alone, he knows it's coming. To him, it's a mathematical inevitability.

He should know. He wrote the formula. And in a decade when scientists are discovering more extraterrestrial oceans, far away solar systems and Earth-like masses around the galaxy, it's being taken more seriously than ever before

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: planets; seti; space; xplanets
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To: anniegetyourgun
Dear Dr. Drake,

Please consider the following: The Universe (as we suspect) is approximately 14 BILLION years old. Human beings appeared no more than a BLINK ago! The Universe is anticipated to last for TRILLIONS of years more and may eventually just revert to a cold lifeless space. Humans live for approximately 75 years at best. There is NO WAY humans will EVER exist here for another 10,000 years. We probably will be lucky to exist for another 1,000 years. So what's the point of even existing? It's useless. We have absolutely NO IDEA why we are here; why we exist; where we are; how we got here; where we are going (if anywhere). Other life forms? Other planets? I suggest it is impossible.

21 posted on 04/30/2009 10:41:15 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

SETI - high tech naval gazers. Get to play with neat equipment and don’t have to produce anything. Great job if you can find suckers to pay for it.


22 posted on 04/30/2009 10:45:29 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Navel that is.


23 posted on 04/30/2009 10:46:43 AM PDT by DManA
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To: null and void
I’m still looking for intelligent life on earth...

Avoid Washington DC.

24 posted on 04/30/2009 10:48:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: All

Dear Dr. Drake: I recommend you seek answers from the One Who created the heavens and the earth. He’s already spoken on such matters.


25 posted on 04/30/2009 10:48:37 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: dfwgator

I do. I wish it was reciprocal though...


26 posted on 04/30/2009 10:51:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 101 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: DManA
There is NO other life out there


27 posted on 04/30/2009 11:18:37 AM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... protege of the unholy union of Karl Marx and affirmative action)
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To: anniegetyourgun
What! over 25 post without one person posting the green dancing alien girl from Star Trek?
28 posted on 04/30/2009 11:20:36 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Party like its 1773)
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To: NavyCanDo

FR is just not up to snuff these days....


29 posted on 04/30/2009 11:22:10 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

0% evidence; 100% story telling and wishful thinking!


30 posted on 04/30/2009 11:22:33 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: armydoc

Same thing could have caused life there that did here!


31 posted on 04/30/2009 11:37:41 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: DuncanWaring

Excellent article. Thanks for the link.


32 posted on 04/30/2009 11:39:22 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: theDentist

Yep.

And, how else to explain Biden?


33 posted on 04/30/2009 11:47:16 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: FatherofFive
Since we barely have the technology to determine planets the size of Jupiter in other solar systems, the Drake equation is not junk science. We just haven't enough information to obtain a significant number for each component.

That's what science is....the search for answers. In astronomy, the answers take a long time, and we are just at the first steps into seeing further into our own galaxy as well as others.

Finding planets in the 'life belt' of solar systems similar to our own is the goal of a lot of scientists.

34 posted on 04/30/2009 11:50:43 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Jaxter

You’re welcome.


35 posted on 04/30/2009 12:07:57 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Every culture has had its sustaining myth and when it loses favor, another is soon cast in its place; each myth has as its defining property the requirement of sacrifice for all fear angering the gods or the forces aligned against them.

Today’s is no better as we see flocks scattering as our shepherds lose their way while new charmers spring up gathering them back together, promising salvation from certain calamity if they will but give up a bit more.

For all his talk about independence, man is inexorably drawn to the pulsing heat of the madding crowd.


36 posted on 04/30/2009 12:08:08 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Pistolshot
the Drake equation is not junk science. We just haven't enough information to obtain a significant number for each component.

Junk science commonly refers to the use of invalid scientific evidence or findings which simply cannot be justified or understood from the standpoint of the current state of credible scientific or medical knowledge.

For example, I can apply the same “rigor” of the Drake equation to the AOTHOAP calculation:

N=R*fp* ne* fl *fi *fc
Where
N is the number of Angels that can dance on the head of a pin
R is the number of Angels in the universe
fp is the size, in millimeters of the head of the pin
fl is the diameter of an angel
fc is the distance, in millimeters between two angels standing next to each other

What is the difference? I get the same answer – something between “zero” and “billions and billions”

37 posted on 04/30/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: FatherofFive
N=R*fp*fl *fc

Not that it really matters.

38 posted on 04/30/2009 1:05:33 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: raybbr
"frell, frell, frack!"

"Farscape and Battlestar. "

"Why do they all have to begin "F"? "

If my memory serves me, at least the show that originated this whole genre (crews on the run) used the accurate f-word.

39 posted on 04/30/2009 1:46:09 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: FatherofFive
The problem is that none of the terms can be known, and most cannot even be estimated

How many stars in this picture? How many with planets surrounding them? How many of those might possibly sustain life? How many stars can we NOT see yet or discern planets surrounding them? This is just PART of what we can see, and not all of the universes we know of at this time. To say we don't know or can't know is putting your head in the sand. Man has always been curious of how he came to be here and for what purpose.


40 posted on 04/30/2009 1:47:17 PM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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