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Air Resources Board moves to cut carbon use
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | April 24, 2009 | Wyatt Buchanan

Posted on 04/28/2009 5:02:33 PM PDT by Lorianne

California's Air Resources Board on Thursday approved a first-in-the-world regulation to minimize the amount of carbon in fuel, putting California on the cutting edge of promoting alternative fuels in a bid to combat global warming.

The regulation will require fuel manufacturers to cut the so-called carbon intensity of fuels sold in the state 10 percent by 2020 - lowering the amount of greenhouse gases released for every unit of energy produced.

"Now, finally, we are creating the opportunity for other types of transportation fuels to compete on a level playing field," Nichols said.

Manufacturers can meet the standard by selling a mix of fuels, selling all low-carbon fuels or using credits that can be both bought and earned from the state if they exceed the limitations. Alternative fuels include electricity, natural gas, biofuel from food products and fuel from algae, among others.

At the all-day public hearing before the vote, backers of corn-based ethanol criticized the regulation because it counts - as part of the carbon intensity - the indirect effects of manufacturing the fuel. With corn-based ethanol, that means counting the impact of creating new crop land when existing land is converted to growing corn for fuel instead of food.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; capandtrade; carb; globalwarming; marynichols
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UFB.

Electricity is an 'alternative fuel'?

Food-based biofuels ... so they'll burn food or use arable land to grow fuel rather than use petroleum?

Also, doesn't burning ANY carbon based product release CO2?

1 posted on 04/28/2009 5:02:34 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

That slamming sound is businesses walking out of the state.


2 posted on 04/28/2009 5:04:56 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: Lorianne

Goodbye California. Soon you will have an economy no different from Mexico...along with a population that also is no different.


3 posted on 04/28/2009 5:05:20 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Goodbye California. Soon you will have an economy no different from Mexico...along with a population that also is no different.
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Seguro que si!

Stupid idiots. As long as they just stay there for the next 200 years and try and pick up the pieces.


4 posted on 04/28/2009 5:10:03 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Lorianne

California is a place with bad ideas that only work out because they’re never bad enough to collapse the state. Apparently they have leaders who are willing to go the extra mile to see how much the state can suffer before it completely collapses.


5 posted on 04/28/2009 5:10:08 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Lorianne
AIR resources?

Air isn't a resource ... it's God's way of keeping human life (in the blod) happening.

6 posted on 04/28/2009 5:18:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Bogey78O

These people are insane.


7 posted on 04/28/2009 5:18:17 PM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: Lorianne

Where the hell in the US Constitution does it say that UNELECTED, UNACCOUNTABLE fascist bureaucrats can write law?

Where???

The legislature can no more transfer their law-making power to unelected fascist bureaucrats than obuma can transfer his war-making power to Bill Ayers.

How stupid we are. These damn Marxist bureaucrats should be dragged from behind their desks and hanged from a lamp post.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: Lorianne

Giving up on pencils?


9 posted on 04/28/2009 5:22:59 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Lorianne
"Now, finally, we are creating the opportunity for other types of transportation fuels to compete on a level playing field," Nichols said.

???????? Wasn't the field level before this action.

10 posted on 04/28/2009 5:23:58 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Bogey78O
Please note that "carbon intensity" is a new concept. If it has any real meaning in this context, it must be a measure of how much CO2 is released per Btu produced when a fuel is burned. I find it difficult to believe that most of alternative fuels they mention are more effecient under that definition.

Please note, however, that companies that fail to meet this bizarre standard can buy their peace from the government.

Global warming is the new religion; government is its church; and carbon credits are the new indulgences.

11 posted on 04/28/2009 5:26:15 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Lorianne

Two ironic things. The biofuels crowd doesn’t like it. And after all California does, they will still have the pollution blowing from across the Pacific from China, Russia, and India, who are not buying all this global warming crap.


12 posted on 04/28/2009 5:26:36 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: Lorianne

Why not simply pass a law requiring vehicles to run on water? Water has no carbon.


13 posted on 04/28/2009 5:26:51 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: texmexis best
Certifiably.

Comment from site: Now if California would just repeal the law of supply and demand, as well as the laws of physics, you really could have nirvana.

14 posted on 04/28/2009 5:30:52 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

If they lower the “carbon intensity” they lower the energy content. Therefore they lower the mileage. Therefore, people have to buy more fuel to get the carbon they need to get the car to where they need to go.

If lowering carbon in fuel is good, why don’t they take it all out? ;-)


15 posted on 04/28/2009 5:31:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Lorianne
Alternative fuels include electricity, natural gas, biofuel from food products and fuel from algae, among others.

Do they think these are carbonless fuels?

16 posted on 04/28/2009 5:33:04 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Exactly. They they don’t have to buy those pesky ‘offsets’.

Why didn’t they think of that?


17 posted on 04/28/2009 5:41:36 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Dear CARB:

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.


18 posted on 04/28/2009 5:49:21 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: sergeantdave

I have been saying the same thing for years about un-elected bureaucrats writing laws. Apparently noone is listening.


19 posted on 04/28/2009 6:27:51 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana; sergeantdave
I have been saying the same thing for years about un-elected bureaucrats writing laws. Apparently noone is listening.

In this case, the nasty law was Assembly Bill 32 (AB32), another one of Arnie's "bipartisan" accomplishments and probably the most destructive piece of legislation ever passed in California, IMO. It was signed into law in November 2006.

Oh, never mind that 100% of GOP legislators opposed it -- since Arnie championed it, he calls it "bipartisan."

20 posted on 04/28/2009 8:31:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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