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To: Steelfish

Children are born savage, selfish and evil. I am not a Christian but the Bible got original sin dead on. We are not civilizing our children, and then stand back in shock when they turn out to be uncivilized.

Who coulda predicted that, huh?


4 posted on 04/27/2009 11:16:47 PM PDT by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

My first wife used to spout that kids were born perfect and then we screw them up. I never bought into that. Kids left to their own devices are capable of just about anything.

I guess that’s why adults raise them, not the other way around. Go figure...


7 posted on 04/27/2009 11:26:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Sharrukin

Children are born savage, selfish and evil. I am not a Christian but the Bible got original sin dead on. We are not civilizing our children, and then stand back in shock when they turn out to be uncivilized.

Who coulda predicted that, huh?


Very well put.

Phil Zimbardo who did the famous prison experiments with students . . . and had to stop the 2 week planned experiment after a number of days because of the cruelty . . . noted in one preface to his intro to psych text . . . my paraphrase . . . pretty close to his words . . .

“If the monsters are OUT THERE—it’s not a big problem. We can gang up on them. It’s a much bigger problem if the monster is within each of us.”

What was the difference . . . after a huge battery of psych tests and structured interviews . . . what was the difference between the officials and guards of the death camps in WWII and average German citizens? Or average citizens around the world?

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not a blessed thing.

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sobering . . .

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as we ponder the rumors of our military being questioned in training in boot camp and Iraq . . . about whether they as individuals would be willing and able to shoot their parents, brothers, sisters . . . . if ordered to.

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and the rumors about several hundred death camps already set-up and waiting . . . within our borders.

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for those patriots that engineered plagues leave behind?

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MARANATHA!

The only ONE with a true solution to the sin problem.

At His own supreme cost.


27 posted on 04/28/2009 2:51:45 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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