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An Early Military Victory for Obama (barf)
WashPost ^ | 4/13/2009 | Michael D. Shear

Posted on 04/13/2009 5:44:56 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: Alter Kaker
IMHO, the Navy told *O* ,as soon as they learned about the "hostage" situation, "piece of cake "!

*O* said wait, lets talk to them first, and after 17 briefings *O* realized he had no effin clue what to do, he told the Navy, ok do it your way.

The Navy did, bingo, bango , bongo!

Just proves you need to untie the hands of our military,and let them do what they train to do ! God Bless our Troops!

21 posted on 04/13/2009 6:03:10 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry
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To: BerniesFriend

Yes I’m so proud of Hero Zero.


22 posted on 04/13/2009 6:03:58 AM PDT by geege
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To: Alter Kaker

You would think that sending warships to an area was evidence of permission to use force, but no, it took 4 days for the permission to be given.


23 posted on 04/13/2009 6:04:25 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: tiredoflaundry
*O* realized he had no effin clue what to do, he told the Navy, ok do it your way.

Bingo.

Now he can get back to the really important stuff - like organizing our communities.

24 posted on 04/13/2009 6:06:50 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: lacrew
So, I’m not sure what Obama’s role in this could be, other than not getting in the way.

Exactly. He set the priority of saving the captain's life and then the military operated from there. I don't see where he waited four days to allow use of force, he issued additional orders after four days elaborating on the initial directives.

25 posted on 04/13/2009 6:06:50 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Alter Kaker
He didn't give the order to use force. He gave the order to allow the SEAL team to use force at their discretion, if they felt the life of the captain was in danger.

That's the official story, and it may well be true.

My own take on it is: there were 4 pirates. One was on the US ship engaged in negotiations -- why would the pirates threaten the captain at that time? It doesn't make sense. I think it's far mor elikely that the Navy did a simple calculation: with one guy off the boat, our job just got 25% easier. Wait for a clean shot, then take it. Afterwards, we'll say that they were -- I don't know -- pointing an AK-47 at the captain's back. Or something.

I have no problem with that. But the media certainly isn't delving into "what really happened" -- which they most certainly would have done had Bush just taken credit for killing pirates.

26 posted on 04/13/2009 6:07:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I’m thinking they asked him 17 times for permission to do something, and 17 times he adopted a wait-and-see attitude. Finally, when the Navy took action, Obama stepped up and said, ‘That was my idea.’”

I’m thinking he adopted the wait-and-see attitude, knowing of a standing order, and after having decided that if he just didn’t interfere with the standing order, if something good happenened, he would get credit for it; but, if something bad happened, he could always deny his involvement in the final decision. His four-day delay was primarily an attempt to make it win-win for him, The One.


27 posted on 04/13/2009 6:07:33 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Alter Kaker

And any guesses on what the headline would have been had the operation failed?


28 posted on 04/13/2009 6:07:40 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Puppage
You should see the latest AP article from Jennifer Loven, who by the way is one of the worst "journalists" who act as Obama sycophant and DNC propagandist.

Furthermore, we should go back to the incident witht the Chinese just into the Bush administration. I doubt they treat him with the same kindness.

Mind you that the pirates seized a second ship during all this too.

29 posted on 04/13/2009 6:07:40 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: concerned about politics

Yup, and ordering pizza, having parties, and God forbid, he miss “date night”.


30 posted on 04/13/2009 6:09:36 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry
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To: kempster

How about: “Obama Saddened Navy Snipers Violated Order to Wait and Watch; Bloodthirsty Sailors to Be Transported to Military Prison; CIC Executive Order Controlling Military Atrocities to Issue Next Week; Obama Escorts Pirates to Shore, Promises No More Armed Defense”


31 posted on 04/13/2009 6:13:43 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Alter Kaker

That stupid POS president would not know how to pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heel. He just had to authorize the actions that were taken.


32 posted on 04/13/2009 6:15:57 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year military veteran of Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: concerned about politics

If Bush was still President, they’d want him to be sent to the Hague to be tried for war crimes for killing the 3 pirates in cold blood. Except they’d be claiming 30 pirates were killed (like with the figures that have been thrown around about the number of Iraqi civilians who have been killed since the US invasion, which is about 10 times the actual number).


33 posted on 04/13/2009 6:17:32 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: kempster
And any guesses on what the headline would have been had the operation failed?

Like all the other Oboma failures - it would be Bush's' fault, of course.

34 posted on 04/13/2009 6:18:50 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: KC_Conspirator
Mind you that the pirates seized a second ship during all this too.

Damn good point

35 posted on 04/13/2009 6:22:28 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Non-Sequitur

How does it really matter what Clinton would have done?


36 posted on 04/13/2009 6:23:01 AM PDT by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Alter Kaker; All

If this had gone bad we would have been up Obama’s ass about it. All involved, from the CIC to the snipers performed exactly as they should have reulting in a positive outcome. Trying to turn this around as a negative for Obama will harm the conservative cause and make us look like haters who treat him with scorn regardless. This turned out well, congratulations to all, move on.


37 posted on 04/13/2009 6:26:37 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: Alter Kaker
I say send sorrO ashore with nothing but his nits - er, wits...or was that twits. Well whatever it is, he could take it, a couple teleprompters and a long knife, then slash and stab anything that moves until there's nothing left but a sea of red, much like he's doing to our economy and social fabric.

Hopefully, our ships will have slipped away under the cover of darkness as he feasts on the skinnies in a way that only a Chicago lawyer could.

38 posted on 04/13/2009 6:27:54 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Time for the pentagon to apologize to and back off the 3/1.)
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To: Alter Kaker

I dunno’ . . . I thought the people on the scene saw an opening and shot the bastard . . . didn’t know he waited for the Most Merciful and All-Knowing to pull the trigger. It’s amazing how they’re ginning up some kind of macho and concerned president when the ba$tard wouldn’t even field an answer the other day . . . and the Sec of State cackled . . . what am I missing . . . American pulls a trigger, shoots the pirate, kills him, and captain is freed. Where does Dumbama fit into this picture?


39 posted on 04/13/2009 6:29:30 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: awake-n-angry
This turned out well, congratulations to all, move on.

The Navy Seals did an excellent job. As soon as my husband heard the captain was safe, he knew the Navy Seals were in charge.

40 posted on 04/13/2009 6:31:12 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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