APPL 118.45 share - market cap- 105.49bn
MSFT 18.76 share - market cap- 166.79bn
Those stupid people at Apple... are gaining!
Windows 7 is going to kill the overpriced Mac business model. This severe recession is also impacting Mac sales since many of the liberals and artistic types made money on Wall Street and our financial sector which is undergoing major shrinkage
Vista is a great OS. The media killed it. The media hates Microsoft.
As I am a mutant (MacPC), I think they both have strong points, which is why I use both.
I disagree, I have used both PCs and MACs since the 1970's, mainly PC's most of the time. Lately I am tired of PC's and the high maintenance in time to fix every issue. I recently sent in one of my Lenovo's for a broken latch under warranty. The laptop came back with no network connection, either Wifi or hard wired. So after 2.5 hours talking to Lenovo and down loading drivers on another computer, burning to CD to transfer, the laptop works again. With a PC it's always something to deal with. So if my PC was a car, I would always be working on the car in order to get back and forth.
My other complaint is that I takes a while for the PC to work, even when waking from sleep.
I have neither of these issues with a MAC, it works without issues and I open the Macbook and start to work.
Now that said there are software and some Internet web sites which do not support MACs, thus the need for a PC.
Bottom line, I'm tired of learning all about how to make and keep my PC working, while not even having to think about the MAC.
APPL 118.45 share - market cap- 105.49bn
MSFT 18.76 share - market cap- 166.79bn
Those stupid people at Apple... are gaining!
You said — Windows 7 is going to kill the overpriced Mac business model. This severe recession is also impacting Mac sales since many of the liberals and artistic types made money on Wall Street and our financial sector which is undergoing major shrinkage
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This isn’t a recession, it’s an absolute depression, bigger than the last Great Depression that we had and will result in changes in the entire world’s financial system and a world-wide currency along with global control for the U.S. financial markets...
Now, that we’ve gotten that one out of the way...
People will still be using computers during this Depression and afterwards, too. And if the Macintosh market sales sink, then they are *really going to sink* — bigtime — for the Windows market.... LOL...
In any case, Apple is in a much better position to make it through this absolute Depression that we’re in, a lot better off (in terms of making money) than these cheap Windows-market computer makers, who can barely “hold on” at the present time. Some of those Windows-market computer-makers will probably go into “oblivion” during this Great Depression, while Apple is still making money all through it... :-)
Oh..., and by the way, I’m going to be buying one of those new Macintosh computers during this Great Depression that we’re in, too.... :-)
There are so many false and idiotic assumptions in your post it would take a book to correct them.
Needless to say, if Macs are the domain of liberals, why do a significant portion of FR members use them?
No, it won’t. And here’s why:
For all of the hype MSFT is putting forth in this silly challenge, here’s what the MSFT fanboys are missing:
Microsoft does not make hardware.
Apple’s ad campaign engaged in a somewhat dishonest, but clever, shift in blame: Microsoft has little to no control over hardware quality and price. Microsoft only cranks out the OS and an application suite for the PC platform. Apple’s “Hi, I’m a Mac... and I’m a PC” campaign cleverly (if dishonestly) conflated the two issues into one persona.
For this reason, (ie, MSFT makes no hardware), MSFT won’t be able to kill Apple. Apple has their hardware margins to keep them alive, as well as now charging for their OS and applications (which they didn’t used to do). MSFT gets none of the hardware margins, at the same time they’re facing margin problems themselves: MSFT’s gross margin is lower than AAPL’s.
In realistic terms, MSFT has pretty much reached the end of the line in organic growth, unless they come out with successful new products and platforms. This is pretty well indicated in market valuations of MSFT vs AAPL — and the fact that MSFT’s price is being pushed down to the point where the dividend is now a real factor in total investor return going forward.
AAPL, on the other hand, is pushing out into consumer electronics with the iPhone, which is increasingly successful as a wireless business platform (who woulda thunk it?)
MSFT certainly isn’t going away anytime soon, and neither is AAPL. MSFT, however, has a long way to go to recover momentum for a desktop OS that they’ve squandered with such horrendous crap as Vista. Windows 7 might do it, but I remain dubious, as I see that ONCE AGAIN, they’re screwing around with the UI. The one nice thing about Apple’s UI is that they’ve been relentlessly consistent about major issues for years and years - and the value of this was proven to me when, after 12 years of not using a Mac or MacOS, I buy a MacBook, plop it down, open it up and am using it without reading any instructions in 90 seconds.
That’s funny. I can do the same thing with most any version of Unix, (BSD or AT&T), VMS, etc. Heck, I can navigate my way through IBM’s product line pretty much expecting similar results whether I’m using MVS, VM/CMS or AS/400’s.
Microsoft would do well to come up with a UI, fix it in stone and leave it, instead of giving the user a new game of “hunt the whumpus!” with every new release.
Seriously?
Seriously?
First, Apple is making market gains at the expense of Windows(^) (ComputerWorld) as Windows 7 stalls. Additionally, Microsoft just announced that they will be allowing Windows 7 downgrades (^) (CNet), not only to Vista, but all the way back to XP. Doesn't sound like they have a lot of confidence in their own product, does it?
Second, I'm a Linux girl now, but I have a Mac, have had several over the years, and will get another when the time comes. I use both a Linux PC & a Mac and couldn't be happier.
I know too many Conservatives to count who use Apple products. The idea that Conservatives aren't artistic or creative and thus couldn't benefit from an Apple is simply silly.
Where do you get this idea that Conservatives don't use Apples?
It’s your position that Apple’s sales are based on catering to the “liberals and artistic types” ... on Wall St???
Yet despite your sputterings of days-gone-by prophecy of Apple doom and gloom, Just read a report the other day - Apple computer market share now something like 9.7%... This up from nearly 3% only a few years back...