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How I Came to Get a PC and Not a Mac
Joe Wilcox ^ | Posted on April 6, 2009 2:17 AM | by Joe Wilcox

Posted on 04/07/2009 2:10:36 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: ctdonath2

Yep, the very first thought I had, when seeing the comparison pictures on this thread... LOL...


61 posted on 04/07/2009 10:09:25 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

62 posted on 04/07/2009 10:09:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: mkleesma

I got an old computer from a friend that I loaded 9.04 on. I’m pretty impressed especially considering that is just a beta. I would like to load it on a newer computer to see how it works. I have already seen that it is easier to network with my Macs than a Windows computer is.

The only real concern I would have now is printing. If I were to give up my Mac, Ubuntu would be where I went.

I’m curious, has it every happened that the company with close to 90% of the market mentions their competitor with only 10% of the market in their advertisements? Seems like an odd choice to me.


63 posted on 04/07/2009 10:11:45 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: WVKayaker

Kayaker, your tagline is from Robert Heinlein, not AC Clarke. It’s from the notebooks of Lazarus Long.


64 posted on 04/07/2009 10:16:49 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Obama had to destroy the economy in order to save it.)
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To: dennisw

You said — Windows 7 is going to kill the overpriced Mac business model. This severe recession is also impacting Mac sales since many of the liberals and artistic types made money on Wall Street and our financial sector which is undergoing major shrinkage

This isn’t a recession, it’s an absolute depression, bigger than the last Great Depression that we had and will result in changes in the entire world’s financial system and a world-wide currency along with global control for the U.S. financial markets...

Now, that we’ve gotten that one out of the way...

People will still be using computers during this Depression and afterwards, too. And if the Macintosh market sales sink, then they are *really going to sink* — bigtime — for the Windows market.... LOL...

In any case, Apple is in a much better position to make it through this absolute Depression that we’re in, a lot better off (in terms of making money) than these cheap Windows-market computer makers, who can barely “hold on” at the present time. Some of those Windows-market computer-makers will probably go into “oblivion” during this Great Depression, while Apple is still making money all through it... :-)

Oh..., and by the way, I’m going to be buying one of those new Macintosh computers during this Great Depression that we’re in, too.... :-)


65 posted on 04/07/2009 10:17:29 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Swordmaker
I stand corrected. Their share for the year 2008 was 6% (3 out of every 50 units was a Mac).

Roughly 1/3rd of Ross Perot's share of the general election vote for president in 1992, making it a niche market for programmers. Why cut one's income by 94% when writing a computer application?

Even if they had a 10% share, which you give them, it isn't cost effective to write an app. that avoids 90% of possible sales.

66 posted on 04/07/2009 10:18:50 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Lockbox
Now that said there are software and some Internet web sites which do not support MACs, thus the need for a PC.

Thus the miracle that is VMWare Fusion.

67 posted on 04/07/2009 10:19:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Thus the miracle that is VMWare Fusion

That's next on my list to checkout. Thanks

68 posted on 04/07/2009 10:23:53 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: WVKayaker

what does that picture look like when the camera in the apple screen breaks?


69 posted on 04/07/2009 10:24:08 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: capt. norm

Those market share figures don’t include sales directly to corporations I believe. I know they don’t include custom built or home built systems either.


70 posted on 04/07/2009 10:24:14 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: capt. norm

It doesn’t seem like OS X is hurting for software development. Most companies have both a Windows and Mac development department. Some stuff seems better implemented on the Mac as well, amazingly at the top of this list is MS Office (even though they try to cripple it by removing features).


71 posted on 04/07/2009 10:34:06 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Lockbox

You said — I disagree, I have used both PCs and MACs since the 1970’s, mainly PC’s most of the time.

Ummmm..., Macs (not MACs, Media Access Control, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Access_Control ) were not in existence in the 1970s. They did not come into existence until 1984.

In addition, the IBM PC did not come around until 1981, with the IBM introduction of their desktop computer... (I remember going out to specifically see that machine...).

Prior to that, you had the Apple II computer, that Apple produced from 1977 forward.

And prior to that, you had hobbyist computers like the IMSAI 8080, which really was not a computer like we know, at all..., from 1975 forward. You had to be a real geek to even do anything with it... :-)

It would seem that you would know the difference between “Mac” and “MAC” for one thing, and also know that there were not PCs and Macs to compare in the 1970s, and that there really were no real “desktop computers” until about 1977 forward, and it was not even a “comparison” between Apple and “PCs” until the 1980s...

I would say you don’t know your computers very well...

[ P.S. — if you were using a “PC” since the 1970s, you were either programming the IMSAI 8080 yourself, having to “kludge” things together to make it even work right..., or you were using the Apple II Series of computers.... LOL...]


72 posted on 04/07/2009 10:36:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Glenn

Vista was a steaming pile. The speed with which MSFT started on the Win7 effort, coupled with the marketing backstop of allowing users to down-rev to XP, shows that it wasn’t mere advertising and media that killed Vista.

The DRM crap is what killed Vista.

MSFT should take a page out of Jobs’ playbook and tell Hollywood to go pound sand. DRM of Hollywood’s crap is NOT the job of an OS, any OS.

I NB that Win7 can be down-rev’ed to XP as well now too. Shows quite the level of confidence by MSFT, eh?


73 posted on 04/07/2009 10:38:42 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: capt. norm
If you were a programmer/developer you'd soon discover that writing apps for a Mac is like manufacturing hubcaps for Rolls Royce cars.....potential customers are few and far between.

Except writing for a Mac is almost the same as writing for an iPhone (and iPod Touch). Same thing, just different UI and a slightly different API. So once you learn Mac, you pretty much know iPhone, probably the hottest-selling platform for applications in the world. There are about 20 million iPhones and growing, probably millions of Touches, and about 30 million Macs.

And as a Windows programmer who has been playing with Mac, I can say I'm a lot more productive coding for the Mac.

BTW, back in 2005 when the Mac had 5% marketshare Mac software was 18% of the software market. Also, shareware developers who had the same products on both platforms have reported that while Mac had 5% of the market, their Mac versions accounted for up to 50% of sales.

Time to learn Mac coding.

74 posted on 04/07/2009 10:39:09 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Marie
I don’t know what’s wrong with just sticking to the tested, tried and true XP. It’s a great little program! Doesn’t use a lot of memory. Rarely glitches. It works!

I found 7 in a VM on a Mac to be faster than XP. I even ran them at the same time with the same VM settings (1 GB RAM each, one processor each), flipping back and forth.

75 posted on 04/07/2009 10:43:25 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw

There are so many false and idiotic assumptions in your post it would take a book to correct them.

Needless to say, if Macs are the domain of liberals, why do a significant portion of FR members use them?


76 posted on 04/07/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: NVDave

I play content up-scaled to 1600p all the time under Vista with zero issues - what am i doing wrong?


77 posted on 04/07/2009 10:46:49 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: NVDave

Like many companies that suddenly found themselves without a market, M$ has lost sight of who the customer is - forgetting that the end user is the actual customer, not the big-contract middlemen (Dell, Gateway, etc. who buy copies of Windows by the truckload) and their collaborators (RIAA, MPAA, and their cohorts seeking to influence, if not outright control, content distribution infrastructure).


78 posted on 04/07/2009 10:47:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: FUBO
I’m a penguin.

Newly minted penguin here, too.

I was happy dual-booting for the longest time, playing with Linux from time to time, until the last Windows update broke whatever runs the wireless network software on my Windows partition and I could no longer connect. After trying everything, I decided it wasn't worth it, spent a day doing a (much needed) data backup, reformatted and dumped Windows for good.

I installed PC Linux, solely on the basis of having seen someone here at FR suggest it. Could not be happier. It runs like a dream, makes the machine blindingly fast, and is very stable.

We kept Windows XP on my husband's Dell laptop, but only because we need it for the type of tax software we run. If/when we find a workaround or a software alternative, it's outta here.

When my husband built systems for the kids, they got Ubuntu/EdUbuntu. Even the little ones figured it out with minimal help.

Next time we upgrade systems, I will insist on a Windows-free system & won't buy till I find a place that will do it. I'm not paying to have Microsoft break my machine's operability with their own update on a system that is supposed to run Windows perfectly.

We've gone from several all-Windows systems with one Linux system (and a Mac) to all Linux systems with one Windows system (and a Mac) in the last few years.

79 posted on 04/07/2009 10:49:19 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Hey, Kids! It's the new Mitt Romney! Collect the whole set!)
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To: dennisw
Hmmm. Nice example of outcome based reporting. Have you considered going to work for CNN, or MSNBC?

If you really wanted all of that, with world class reliability, and very affordable prices...you should have bought a SAGER

Sony computing products are, in my experience, unreliable, too pricey, and their customer service should be renamed to Customer Disservice.
80 posted on 04/07/2009 10:49:57 AM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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