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1 posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:55 AM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

The only solid proof I know of for UFO’s is the existence of Al Gore.


2 posted on 04/02/2009 9:10:08 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; topcat54; Marysecretary; Star Traveler

Ping..


3 posted on 04/02/2009 9:10:12 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

BTTT


4 posted on 04/02/2009 9:11:18 AM PDT by unkus
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To: TaraP

The ramifications of revealing any evidence of visitation, technical assistance, or cooperation would destroy governmental and society controls. There would be chaos.


5 posted on 04/02/2009 9:13:14 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: TaraP

“CNN supposedly filmed a UFO moving at a great speed from the right to the left during the inauguration of President Barack Obama. (But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)

After that, former President Clinton’s White House Chief John Podesta, now one of Obama’s closest associates, demanded that the thick UFO files be made public. “

That is fascinating. I never heard that reported by our media, and wondered what happened after this incident.

Hard to be so skeptical after reporting like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5IKmWDmHk

I think denial has been such a safe place, people are afraid to come out.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 9:14:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: nw_arizona_granny

ping


12 posted on 04/02/2009 9:16:45 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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17 posted on 04/02/2009 9:19:58 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: TaraP
(But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)

If a bird flies by and you can't identify the species, then, yes, it can be called a UFO...

22 posted on 04/02/2009 9:25:20 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: TaraP

There was a weird triangle shaped vehicle flying over Wichita in the early 70’s.

I saw it once, it was pretty cool. I suspect it was a prelude to the stealthy planes we see now. Regardless, it looked cool and shook up a few people that saw it.


24 posted on 04/02/2009 9:29:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: TaraP

I believe that sightings of UFOs are the psychic projections into the noospere of mankind’s desire to see improvements in off-the-ground transportation modalities, such as commercial airlines.

Thus, the persistant reports of UFO abductions involving anal probes led inevitably to the introduction of Homeland Security’s screening procedures at airports.

If these procedures could be introduced on other means of public transport and commerce, such as shopping malls and movie theaters, then one would expect reported sightings and other encounters with alien UFOs would decline accordingly.


45 posted on 04/02/2009 10:03:56 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: TaraP

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2220771/posts


59 posted on 04/02/2009 11:26:40 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: TaraP

My issue with “flying saucers” is that the disk shape doesn’t make for a very good aircraft. The only ones that might have ever performed decently were the Chance-Vought “Flying Flapjacks” and they weren’t really saucer shaped. Too bad the gear box wouldn’t work.


60 posted on 04/02/2009 11:28:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: TaraP

The only problem I have with some UFO sightings is their the UFO’s compliance with id lights on the UFO. By that I mean some and not all UFO’s have three lights nose and wings (triangle shape) lightnings. Now are these back engineered? Are they captured exotic Nazi knowledge? I don’t know. Now some of them can not be described in known conventional terms. Objects that deify physics, objects that blink in and blink out of sight, to name a few. Myself I have seen two objects that I could not id. One was the classic cigar shaped object in the early 60’s, the other was when I was around 12 in a cabin in the mountains of Arizona way laying out on the porch at night clear unobscured night, was looking at the stars when I saw 4 stars that kinda looked like the little dipper but were in a square pattern not the dipper pattern. I thought to myself thats strange that I had not ever seen them before since I had done a lo of star gazing back in Kansas. When all of a sudden the four stars took off all at the same time all in diagonal paths from the four corners of the box at extremely high speeds and then disappeared. Thats my experience with the flying unknown. Has anyone else had a UFO sighting?


70 posted on 04/02/2009 11:53:41 AM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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Welllllllllll, TaraP,

finally about to get myself out the door to pottery.

Blessings.

May or may not check in at the college.


73 posted on 04/02/2009 11:59:22 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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"A spaceship?"


99 posted on 04/02/2009 2:01:49 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: TaraP

BFL. Love UFO Stuff


107 posted on 04/02/2009 2:20:02 PM PDT by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: TaraP

I have no question that they exist.

In the early 1950s surring lunch in high school I watched one being chased by 2 AF jets for over 20 minutes.

It would sit stationary, the jets would go at it from opposite sides and before they got there it would shoot up and away from them at 4 or 5 times the speed of the fighters.

It would hover again and they would go at it again with the same result.

This occured over and over until the lunch bell rang and I had to go back to class.

I don’t know who made it or where it came from and don’t give a damn.


144 posted on 04/02/2009 7:58:29 PM PDT by dalereed
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If a flying saucer zips across the sky at a blink of an eye wouldn't it create a sonic boom?
215 posted on 04/05/2009 7:30:48 AM PDT by vigilante2 (Don't tread on me)
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To: TaraP

Calculating intelligent life on other worlds and the possibility of them and us meeting has pluses and minuses, both of which need to be considered.

On the plus side, there are 200 to 400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. While only a percentage of these can support intelligent life, it is likely to still be a substantial number. This is calculated with the Drake Equation:

N=(R*)(Ns)(Fp)(Ne)(Fl)(Fi)(Fc)(L)

* N = Number of civilizations we can communicate with
* R* = Average star formation rate
* Ns = Percentage of stars capable of supporting earth-like planets
* Fp = Percentage of those stars with planets
* Ne = Average number of planets in those stars’ habitable zones
* Fl = Percentage of those planets where life begins
* Fi = Percentage of planets with life where an intelligent species evolves
* Fc = Percentage of those intelligent species that develop communication technology
* L = Average lifetime, in years, of a civilization that develops such technology

However, there are some pretty harsh minuses that also have to be considered.

To start with, the Milky Way galaxy is about 13 billion years old, but the Earth is only about 4.5 billion years old. The window of intelligent humanity is only about 100,000 years old. The window of intelligent humanity capable of communicating outside of our world in any way is less than 35 years.

The odds of a civilization paralleling us in time is small, even if their civilization lasts 1 million years. In 13 billion years, there are 13,000 such windows of time. Vast numbers of civilizations have likely existed and died out before us, and vast numbers are still to come after us, and we will never meet.

The other grand problem is distance. The closest star to our sun is four light years away. These distances get into Obama-sized numbers, with just 1 light year being about 5.8 Trillion miles. An Earth like habitable planet may be 200 light years away, and an Earth like habitable planet with any life on it may be 1,000 light years away.

So to find a planet with intelligent life anywhere near us is going to be a major long shot. And remember, it works both ways. Even if they have very advanced technology, they might have to survey through hundreds of thousands of stars with Earth like conditions, to find us.

If they are just a few thousand light years away and look at Earth, what are the odds they will notice the early ancient Egyptians or their peers?

Add to that the zinger that if they want to meet us, they need to cross those vast distances faster than light by a long chalk. Even just 2,000 light years away, they would need to travel 2,000 times the speed of light just to get here in a year of travel. Then just as fast to get home in a second year.

Of course there are lots of twists an turns to this as well. The Milky Way galaxy is not fair or equal in many ways. There are sectors of the galaxy that have been sterilized by cosmic events, literally blasted with so much radiation from an exploding star that any life in that region would have been instantly killed, though the planets remain.

Our own Earth has been wiped out by catastrophic events several times, that likely would have killed all life, so back to square one.

All told, the Milky Way galaxy may be teeming with intelligent life, but the odds of a UFO making it to Earth are very small.


227 posted on 04/05/2009 10:01:46 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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