Time to settle the “flying saucers” question.....

Ria Novosti ^ | April 2nd, 2009

[JoJo Gunn]

Compared to you dirtbag, I'm the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth.

What's the matter, sweetheart? Fistella turn you down again? 

[mkjessup]

Don't strain your midget sized intellect with those big words.

Ordinarily when dealing with someone like you and their arrested development [as JoJo Gunn protests loudly "I ain't never been arrested in my life!"], one would ask "did your mother have any children who lived?" however in your case, the correct question would be "how did your father talk that pit bull into actual coitus?"

[JoJo Gunn]

Jessup, no doubt being a flying saucer fringe kook is synonymous with almost unbearable loneliness. I’m going to make a run to the nursing home this afternoon, so give me your room number and I’ll pop my head in for a minute.

Be forewarned - no matter how much you beg and plead, I will not loosen your straps.

[mkjessup]

Jessup, no doubt being a flying saucer fringe kook is synonymous with almost unbearable loneliness. I’m going to make a run to the nursing home this afternoon, so give me your room number and I’ll pop my head in for a minute.
Be forewarned - no matter how much you beg and plead, I will not loosen your straps.

If I so much as see your oval shaped, almond-eyed grey head peek in my door, I'll throw my bedpan at you, you hear me you alien goon? I KNOW YOU ARE now, you are XENU, ya bastid!

I've warned the nurses about you too, and I got some extra sherbet as a reward, and NONE FOR YOU!

I'll be on the alert now, so watch your damn step.

[headsonpikes]

Good post - thank Xenu somebody is retaining their sense of humor!

Some posts on this thread veer frightfully close to the postings of former FReeper f.christian, without his characteristic terseness, unfortunately.

[JoJo Gunn]

....and I got some extra sherbet as a reward, and NONE FOR YOU!

You can have your sherbet. I like strawberry ice cream.  :)

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Calculating intelligent life on other worlds and the possibility of them and us meeting has pluses and minuses, both of which need to be considered.

On the plus side, there are 200 to 400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. While only a percentage of these can support intelligent life, it is likely to still be a substantial number. This is calculated with the Drake Equation:

N=(R*)(Ns)(Fp)(Ne)(Fl)(Fi)(Fc)(L)

* N = Number of civilizations we can communicate with
* R* = Average star formation rate
* Ns = Percentage of stars capable of supporting earth-like planets
* Fp = Percentage of those stars with planets
* Ne = Average number of planets in those stars’ habitable zones
* Fl = Percentage of those planets where life begins
* Fi = Percentage of planets with life where an intelligent species evolves
* Fc = Percentage of those intelligent species that develop communication technology
* L = Average lifetime, in years, of a civilization that develops such technology

However, there are some pretty harsh minuses that also have to be considered.

To start with, the Milky Way galaxy is about 13 billion years old, but the Earth is only about 4.5 billion years old. The window of intelligent humanity is only about 100,000 years old. The window of intelligent humanity capable of communicating outside of our world in any way is less than 35 years.

The odds of a civilization paralleling us in time is small, even if their civilization lasts 1 million years. In 13 billion years, there are 13,000 such windows of time. Vast numbers of civilizations have likely existed and died out before us, and vast numbers are still to come after us, and we will never meet.

The other grand problem is distance. The closest star to our sun is four light years away. These distances get into Obama-sized numbers, with just 1 light year being about 5.8 Trillion miles. An Earth like habitable planet may be 200 light years away, and an Earth like habitable planet with any life on it may be 1,000 light years away.

So to find a planet with intelligent life anywhere near us is going to be a major long shot. And remember, it works both ways. Even if they have very advanced technology, they might have to survey through hundreds of thousands of stars with Earth like conditions, to find us.

If they are just a few thousand light years away and look at Earth, what are the odds they will notice the early ancient Egyptians or their peers?

Add to that the zinger that if they want to meet us, they need to cross those vast distances faster than light by a long chalk. Even just 2,000 light years away, they would need to travel 2,000 times the speed of light just to get here in a year of travel. Then just as fast to get home in a second year.

Of course there are lots of twists an turns to this as well. The Milky Way galaxy is not fair or equal in many ways. There are sectors of the galaxy that have been sterilized by cosmic events, literally blasted with so much radiation from an exploding star that any life in that region would have been instantly killed, though the planets remain.

Our own Earth has been wiped out by catastrophic events several times, that likely would have killed all life, so back to square one.

All told, the Milky Way galaxy may be teeming with intelligent life, but the odds of a UFO making it to Earth are very small.

[Redcloak]

Have you ever known a reptile to pay his taxes on time? I think that this rules out “alien”.

[mkjessup]

....and I got some extra sherbet as a reward, and NONE FOR YOU!
You can have your sherbet. I like strawberry ice cream. :)

STRAWBERRIES!!! That's, that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with, with geometric logic, that, that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist, just like UFOs exist, just like John McCain's chances to win the Presidency existed.

And Falcon and Condor, they made up rude songs about me, I knew they were agents of disinformation, even when none of the rest of you did! And it all leads back to a bunch o' dark rooms in Montauk New York, and HERE is the website with all of the answers!

http://www.bielek.com

THERE! If you can handle the truth, THERE IT IS!




[Damn I hope they come to empty this bedpan soon, that really felt good!]

[topcat54]

Philadelphia Experiment Survivor A Fake

[mkjessup]

Well of COURSE Al Bielek is a fake! Why do you think I referenced his abysmal website?

And YOU, amateur 'debunker' that you are, don't even cite the best source for debunking Bielek, which is:

http://www.bielek-debunked.com

Now THERE is a professionally done job of debunking!

Educate thyself.

[topcat54]

Well of COURSE Al Bielek is a fake! Why do you think I referenced his abysmal website?

From the rants its hard to tell.

[JoJo Gunn]

Educate thyself.

Flying saucer fringies shalt not throw stones. 

[mkjessup]

Educate thyself.
Flying saucer fringies shalt not throw stones

You of all people ought to have truly appreciated 'bielek-debunked.com', it's the kind of well constructed website that puts the lie to people like Al Bielek.

As for our friend Topcat54, I'm nearly certain that he thought he was going to have a 'gotcha' moment, little did he know that my mentioning that joker Bielek was intended only to give YOU, my ol' pal, a few chuckles.

Now I've got to get going here, the bus for the trip to the local shuffleboard court will be here any minute.

[JoJo Gunn]

I'm nearly certain that he thought he was going to have a 'gotcha' moment....

And you were right. It doesn't matter which site you think is the best, the most erudite, whatever. The simple fact remains that, though they're not quite masters of the King's English, even drooling toddlers can see through the nonsense of the kook fringies. 

Don't forget to pin your name and room number on your lapel. And have fun!

[mkjessup]

I always have fun. :)

[topcat54]

You of all people ought to have truly appreciated 'bielek-debunked.com', it's the kind of well constructed website that puts the lie to people like Al Bielek.

Unless you are a kool aid sippin' true believer, it all looks the same. But you folks don't seem to get that.

[Alex Murphy]

The only solid proof I know of for UFO is the existence of Al Gore Michael Jackson.