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To: Cronos; All
"Ahem, Alexander the Macedonian...."

Ahem, Macedonian = Greek:

"Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay — and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it.... And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they — Darius" ~ Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian Book II, 7

"If it were not my purpose to combine barbarian things with things Greek, to traverse and civilize every continent, to search out the uttermost parts of land and sea, to push the bounds of Macedonia to the farthest Ocean, and to disseminate and shower the blessings of the Hellenic justice and peace over every nation, I should not be content to sit quietly in the luxury of idle power, but I should emulate the frugality of Diogenes. But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, the divine author and progenitor of my family, and desire that victorious GREEKS should dance again in India and revive the memory of the Bacchic revels among the savage mountain tribes beyond the Kaukasos" ~ On the Fortune of Alexander; Plutarch, 332 a-b

14 posted on 03/31/2009 1:33:12 PM PDT by apro
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To: apro
Macedonians THEN (300 BC) were not Greek. They were considered Barbarians by the Greeks from the Pelopponese and were mostly of Thracian/Dacian origin (ok, technically, related to the Greeks). The Macedonians also supported Artaxerxes during the Greek-Persian wars.

during the time when Alexander the Macedonian took over the Persian Empire (truly speaking, that's all he really did, the Persians had already created an Empire that stretched over Egypt, the Levant, Syria, Anatolia, Assyria, Armenia, Mesopotamia, Iran, Sogdiana, Parthia and Bacrtia. Alexander only really came along and toppled the Persian Shahenshah and took over his throne. He then added a few more lands to the East, but his troops got terrified after facing Puru in India and heard about the larger army of the Magadhans further to the east.
15 posted on 04/01/2009 2:10:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: apro
I just do think that Alexander is a bit over-rated as a conqueror. One of the best, yes, but not the greatest. I'd say there are far more worthier names like:
Sargon of Akkad, Thotmose III, Tiglath-Pileser III, Sennacherib, Ashurbanipal, Cyrus the Great (this guy, IMHO was the greatest, just a narrow squeak ahead of Sargon, who as the first is in a place of his own), then Ashoka, Hannibal, Trajan, Qin Shi huang (first shi huangdi of china), Genghis Khan, etc.
16 posted on 04/01/2009 2:18:55 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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