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UN panel touts new global currency reserve system
breitbart.com ^ | Mar 26 04:09 PM US/Eastern | Breitbart.com

Posted on 03/26/2009 5:18:52 PM PDT by Gordon Greene

A UN panel of expert economists pressed Thursday for a new global currency reserve scheme to replace the volatile, dollar-based system and for coordinated steps by rich countries to stimulate their economies. "A new Global Reserve System -- what may be viewed as a greatly expanded SDR (Special Drawing Rights), with regular or cyclically adjusted emissions calibrated to the size of reserve accumulations, could contribute to global stability, economic strength and global equity," the panel said.

As part of several recommendations to tackle the global financial crisis, the panel also noted recovery would require all developed countries, in the short term, to take "strong, coordinated and effective actions to stimulate their economies."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armageddon; beast; globalcurrency; newworldorder; stiglitz
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Pay particular attention to the quote:

"...could contribute to global stability, economic strength and global equity," then go read the article.

Don't you want to take part in global equity with 3rd world countries? Sounds fun guys!!! Come on... where's your sense of fairness??

1 posted on 03/26/2009 5:18:53 PM PDT by Gordon Greene
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To: Gordon Greene
The Russians and the Chinese would not be pushing for this if they were not trying to destabilize the dollar and destroy the US economy. This is one more step in Obama and the Democrats plan to turn our great country into a deindustrialized third world dictatorship.
2 posted on 03/26/2009 5:25:21 PM PDT by detective
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To: Gordon Greene

Litmus Test:

UN says good -

Must Be Bad.


3 posted on 03/26/2009 5:26:38 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Gordon Greene

We’ve already been taking part in ‘global equity’ with the third world. That’s why we have unfettered illegal immigration,revived slave labor and human trafficking in this country, why taxpayers are ‘bailing out’ transnational corporations who do business with the third world, why our congress has pushed outsourcing and offshoring of our manufacturing and service sectors to the third world.


4 posted on 03/26/2009 5:26:39 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: detective; marron

“The Russians and the Chinese would not be pushing for this if they were not trying to destabilize the dollar and destroy the US economy.”

They’re trying to stop Obama from destabilizing the dollar and destroying their investments in the US Economy. 25% of Russia foreign holdings are invested in US mortgage backed securities.

“The issue of the world currency reserve is expected to be raised at the April 2 summit of the G20 club of developed and emerging economies.”

Exactly. It’s a bargaining chip, a threat to Obama, Geithner, and I have a hunch, Rahm Emanuel the investment banker.

But the world does not understand how arrogant this group of people are.


5 posted on 03/26/2009 5:39:00 PM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: detective
Um, if China wanted to trash the dollar all it has to do is pick up the phone, call their currency trader, and say "sell it".

They don't need a new international monetary system to do that.

They want one because they'd rather keep the value of their 2 trillion dollars intact - but gradually diversify those holdings without setting off any stampede. If that means they lend to the IMF for some of their new export earnings, fine.

6 posted on 03/26/2009 5:46:49 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Shermy
It is not a threat - a threat is something you aren't going to do that someone else doesn't want you to do, that he'll do something for you to stop. China doesn't want something else, it wants a place to park its foreign exchange that is safer in the long run than the US dollar looks to it right now. In case everybody just forgot, last year Fannie and Freddie went broke. China owned north of $1 trillion of their securities when that happened. The UST made those good, but it now issuing trillion dollar checks on a monthly basis, and it is making them nervous again.

So they want another parking place for their regular increments in foreign exchange reserves. If they put them all in Euros next year and said so, they'd set off a stampede and undermine their existing dollar holdings. Not helpful. They'd also wind up doubling the US dollar price of all their export goods. Not helpful. So instead they want a safe way to park them that other people do, too, so they aren't trading away from the market but just taking the average neutral position everyone else is.

The mechanism they've dreamed up for that is to buy SDRs while the IMF takes its dollars in payment. The IMF stands ready to redeem SDRs for a basket of dollars, euros, pounds, and yen. So they blunt their dollar exchange risk right there. The IMF can recycle the dollars to its "ward" borrowers and needs the capital. If longer term the IMF also gradually accumulates gold, perhaps SDRs hold their value rather better than the dollar has over the last 40 years.

Without the Chinese ever needing to cry "sell" and shoot their own foot off.

It is a perfectly sensible proposal. As usual, populist know-nothings therefore assume it is a grand conspiracy to cheat them, not having notice that China's wealth and the rest of the world's needs have approximately nothing to do with them, since they already "busted".

7 posted on 03/26/2009 5:56:01 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

“As usual, populist know-nothings therefore assume it is a grand conspiracy to cheat them”

While your observations of what’s happening in the world are for the most part correct, your faith in anything the UN does is at best misguided. The argument you present is full of holes... there’s no need to talk of “global equity” if it’s nothing more than a way for everyone to feel their currency and investments are “safe”.

To believe that anything the UN does or even suggests is for the betterment of the US is strange to me. Maybe that’s because they’re corrupt and prop up evil dictators... Do you really trust their intentions that much?


8 posted on 03/26/2009 6:05:45 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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To: JasonC

Do you work in finance? All your postings seem to be in that genre...


9 posted on 03/26/2009 6:08:19 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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"Developing countries are lending the United States trillions of dollars at almost zero interest rates when they have huge needs themselves," Stiglitz noted. "It's indicative of the nature of the problem. It's a net transfer, in a sense, to the United States, a form of foreign aid."

Sixty years and uncountable trillions of dollars given as foreign aid to the entire rest of the frickin' world. Hundreds of thousands of American lives given for the peace and safety of the rest of the world. And now they're going to whine when the cashflow temporarily goes the other way?

F!k the developing countries. F!k the UN. Boot their sorry a¿*es out of our country, raze that cesspool of an ugly building, and sow salt where it once stood so that nothing ever grows there again.

10 posted on 03/26/2009 6:09:08 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: JasonC

Actually, I agree with you. And as being a threat, if you meant an idle one, I did think it might be, because I assumed there would have to be some kind of international deficit/budget control, like in the Eurozone. But you have explained well otherwise, thank you.


11 posted on 03/26/2009 6:22:29 PM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: Shermy

What does your tagline mean?


12 posted on 03/26/2009 6:38:21 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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To: JasonC

You know it is a very good question... how does this kind of thinking make sense when America has always bailed out other countries...

“”Developing countries are lending the United States trillions dollars at almost zero interest rates when they have huge needs themselves,” Stiglitz noted. “It’s indicative of the nature of the problem. It’s a net transfer, in a sense, to the United States, a form of foreign aid.””


13 posted on 03/26/2009 6:40:22 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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To: Gordon Greene

Tagline is from here:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5922805


14 posted on 03/26/2009 7:07:41 PM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: Shermy

“Latin American leaders say the U.S. must quickly fix the financial crisis it created before the rest of the world’s hard-won economic gains are lost.”

Nerve, nerve... America’s “casino capitalism” has gotten the world’s tail out of a crack more times than could be counted. Anyone who believes this crap has got nerve...


15 posted on 03/26/2009 7:12:26 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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“Um, if China wanted to trash the dollar all it has to do is pick up the phone, call their currency trader, and say “sell it”.”

That was my point. The Chinese are currently propping up the dollar and financing the huge US deficit. There have been many articles about how the US and China are codependent. The argument they use is that if you owe enough money to the bank they can't let you fail. China wants to let the US economy be destroyed and the dollar be weakened without it hurting them. I believe Obama and the Democrats are also working towards this.

16 posted on 03/26/2009 7:25:56 PM PDT by detective
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Nothing to do with the UN anything. The bank of China and the IMF are not the UN. A few silly people at the UN are simply glomming on to a more serious proposal by their betters and trying to make it a gravy train for their own fiefdoms, but they aren't in charge of any of it. If the Bank of China wants to park its foreign exchange at the IMF instead of the New York Fed, it can and it will, and the UN has exactly nothing to do with it.
17 posted on 03/26/2009 8:24:06 PM PDT by JasonC
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All? Hardly, it is simply the hot political topic of the day. I've been here for 9 years. I've posted on the war in Algeria as a place to learn about the present one, every aspect of foreign policy, philosophy, politics and elections, you name it. I know something about finance, but no it is not my current profession. I'm in software these days. I worked in finance in the past, 90s, and the software stuff I do know includes finance applications, but is not restricted to them.
18 posted on 03/26/2009 8:26:37 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Gordon Greene
Being able to issue endless credits at near zero rates is of course a subsidy of sorts, from those who lend to you. But they do so because we have the best credit on the planet, and they do so voluntarily. Stiglitz protests too much. Is it sustainable if we don't live up to that high credit rating? No.

Is he right that it is flat crazy that the US with much of the world's wealth imports capital on an epic scale, while much poorer countries save religiously and export much of the little they can accumulate by way of capital, to be invested here rather than at home? Yes it is flat crazy.

Three things perpetuate that craziness. Mercantilist economic set ups abroad, reckless lack of saving and debt spending here, and one more that is less destructive and but in a way more tragic. This remains the best environment for investing capital on earth, and property, not respected enough here, is respected even less in the countries exporting their savings to us.

In a sane world, capital would be safe wherever, and would be invested where most needed, and would naturally flow from the wealthy to the less wealthy, and in doing so would gradually reduce the gaps between them. While also lifting all boats, and helping the wealthy to earn passive income from investments abroad. Instead we have a perverse set of international capital flows where poor men in Asia save 40% of what little they produce, so that spendthift wards of the state in America can consume five times what they produce - or 3/4 of what their rich neighbors consume, while producing nothing at all.

And no, I don't think it is patriotism to try to keep that going...

19 posted on 03/26/2009 8:34:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: detective
No, China does not want the US economy to be destroyed or the dollar to weaken, and no they don't want those things to happen just as long as they don't hurt China. There is no way for those things to happen without hurting China. We are their biggest market, and our cold has hurt them enourmously. Even leaving aside their huge commitment to the future exchange value of dollars, in the form of their massive holdings of dollar securities.

They want those securities to retain their value. And they want the US to continue to buy from them. They just aren't nearly as confident that *we* can keep up either side of that, as they were 2 years ago. They want to diversify because the US doesn't look like as sure a thing.

And they are right. It isn't as sure a thing. You don't need to like that for it to be true, and it isn't any nefarious hostile intent on their part to notice it, nor to want to do something about it.

The money is theirs. They earned it. They'll do with it what is in their own interests. It is our business to make that something that is also in ours.

20 posted on 03/26/2009 8:39:05 PM PDT by JasonC
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