Posted on 03/21/2009 6:45:53 AM PDT by vadum
My friend was working out with a private trainer and she passed out. They wanted to send her to the hospital via ambulance but she ended up calling a friend to take her to the ER, only after they turned around so she could put makeup on. She couldn't go to the ER looking bad, that was so Louise.....when she got to the ER she passed out, her pupils were blown and she was taken off life support a few days later. She had a brain bleed, probably an aneurysm that blew.
I have a feeling Natasha had the same thing....once those things blow there is nothing you can do to save them.....
In the whole state? This is Quebec!
Outside of an extreme hypochondriac, I’d be willing to bet that NOBODY would rush off to the emergency room after a bump on the head, stand up and brush it off feeling fine, universal healthcare, private or not.
There was either an underlying condition, hit in just the right spot, or a combination of both. Tragic nonetheless.
BTW, I couldn’t help but re-watch “The Parent Trap” last night while channel surfing feeling so bad Natasha was now gone at my same age. Way too young. But I do love my skiing.
Infant morality rate in the US is shewed because of worlds best intensive neonatal care available
Dan Akroyd said that the hospitals in Quebec are backwards and outdated. He ought to know, he is Canadian.
Head injuries are ticky. People who have received a trauma to the brain may not be in a position to self-diagnose whether they should seek medical attention or not. She should have been required to do so whether she wanted ot or not. This was a senseless death. BTW she was treated in a top notch facility. Trust me on this. Socialized medicine is an unmitigated disaster however we have some of the best neurological trauma centers in the world.
Thank you for this cogent comment. I'd be willing to bet that everyone on this forum has bumped his or her head and even felt woozy for a second before coming to and feeling fine afterwards. How many people go to the ER for a little bump on the head? The point is that this was a terrible tragedy and no one seems to be at fault here.
The decision not to provide government supported air ambulance service is a provincial decision, not a national decision. BTW, there are numerous private air ambulance services in Quebec.
See, there it is already.
Yes, she refused treatment initially, but was complaining about a severe headach an hour later. I heard that the ambulance ride was around 45 minutes to the nearest hospital. From there she had to go to a speciality hospital which was also a long ride away. Sad.
Once she collapsed, though, an AirVac probably could have got her to a hospital in time. In other words, if the same thing had happenned in the US, she could be alive and well. So no, it is not ridiculous.
True, it is a senseless death.
At the point of a gun should she have made to go ???
I have a friend who would argue the infant mortality rate with you, because she’s delivered babies who had just gotten here from another country and had lousy prenatal care. If something goes wrong with that baby and/or mom, it’s our statistic but not because of our bad health care.
Read my answer again. If you are involved in a car accident and are unconscious, should you consent to being taken to a hospital? Or should we wait until you come about to consent? You can appreciate the absurdity of this arguement. The best prescription for any medical condition should not be a political test. Mrs. Richardson would have died in any other country whether they had socialized med or not under the same circumstances. I am as socialist as Obama is conservative but this is just a waste. Nice woman.
Sorry, not collapsed, but rather had a severe headach develope and started to try to seek treatment.
I have a feeling Natasha had the same thing....
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Autopsy report said blunt force. Probably her one mistake was not wearing a helmet but it’s easy to judge when you’re sitting in front of a computer, isn’t it?
Of course not. But you get my point. A person who has acute trauma to the brain may think they ae fine but the underlying injury can be much more severe and the only way to determine the extent of the injuries is proper diagnosis by a neurologist.
Three years ago we were visiting the Queen Charlotte Islands and a hunter was wounded by his own gun. Since the Canadian Govt had no rescue helo available, a US Coast Guard Helo was flown in from Sitka to rescue the hunter and take him to Juneau. At the time, many commercial Canadian helo’s were operating out of Queen Charlotte’s to the same west coast hunting lodges. That doesn’t stop the CBC of having a constant barrage of anti-american shows.
But then she "got worse" and did not refuse treatment the second time. That's when a helicopter to get her to a trauma center would have been a "Good Thing".
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