Posted on 03/19/2009 8:03:48 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
He was convicted for his part in the murder, there’s a strange number of people on this thread who can’t get their heads around the fact that one can be guilty of murder without actually being the person who physically does the killing.
I wonder why that is?
You’re missing the point. He doesn’t fit the definition of serial killer.
I once saw an interview of him where he was asked if he was crazy. His response always stuck with me -
"Crazy? What is crazy? Back in my day, crazy meant something. Today, EVERYBODY is crazy!!".
I have no idea.
I wonder if they think Osama bin Laden should be killid whether or not he personally ever killed anyone himself. And then there are Hamas bomb-makers.
As with the poster of the thread, you are missing the point. I specifically said he didn’t meet the definition of serial killer. Never said he didn’t deserve to be in prison forever, never said he had nothing to do with it, never said he wasn’t guilty of murder in the eyes of the law. I said he wasn’t a serial killer. He wasn’t. End of story.
I’m sick to death of the awful headlines you post, and if you don’t shape up, I’m doing my level-best to get you banned.
I believe Manson was sentenced to death, and shortly after he was sentenced, CA abolished the death penalty. Not 100% sure on this, but pretty sure.
I was holding down my first academic job during the Cultural Revolution, and saw a lot of it first hand. I privately despised all those drug heads and hippies and academic revolutionaries. These are just people playing at revolution, I thought.
Well, yes, the revolution failed, and many of the people involved in it I knew, first hand, were idiots; but looking back there is no doubt that it was a transforming CULTURAL event. You can draw a line through 1968, and things since then have never really been the same as they were before.
The French Revolution was a transforming political event. 1968 proved to be a transforming cultural event.
My old friend Harold Bloom used the compare the countercultural radicals to lemmings. What may not have been so obvious at the time is that there were agents stirring all this up in the background and making use of it to seize the levers of power. People like Obama’s family and friends, who raised him up, apparently, to take another crack at it.
Actually, the fork in the belly was done to Mr. LaBianca the next night, not to Sharon Tate.
Eh?
“Actually, the fork in the belly was done to Mr. LaBianca the next night, not to Sharon Tate.”
And your point is?
Yes, the organ grinders are always the ones who are ignored when the monkeys are cavorting in the street.
Peter Hitchens in the UK has written an excellent book “The Abolition of Britain” it is a very good explanation of how the frothy excesses and irritating excrescences of the radical Left of the late twentieth century were not spontaneous eruptions by crackpots and silly adolescents but were in fact the results of well thought through and meticulous plans drawn up by obscure ideologues half a century before and that their teachings have now thoroughly infected mainstream thought without the need for blood red revolution.
I am pretty sure it is the same in the US.
Your recollection is mostly correct. Manson and several others were handed death sentences on April 19, 1971. Subsequently,
The fate of Charles Manson, Charles Watson, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten, and Robert Beausoleil was decided on February 18, 1972. That day the California State Supreme Court announced that it had voted 6-1 to abolish the death penalty in the state of California. ... In June 1972 the United States Supreme Court ruled, in a 5-4 decision, that the death penalty, if imposed in an arbitrary fashion with the jury being given absolute discretion and no guidelines, constituted “cruel and unusual punishment” in violation of the Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.— Vincent Bugliosi and Curt Gentry, Helter Skelter, p. 661.
I think he killed one of his guys in the desert with a machete. Shorty Shea, maybe. It’s been a long time since i read the books...
Yes. But I thought the whole country abolished capital punishment. Or am I going senile again?
“The photo on the left is of a wild eyed fanatic.”
Looks like one of those “moderate” Talibans.
It's not business, it's personal.
He went with them on the second night's killing; gave instructions and then left.
“What a waste of talent. He could have been an IRS auditor.”
In a little historical irony, one of Hitler’s great nephews in NY did in fact work as an IRS investigator. Howard Stuart-Chamberlain died in an auto accident back in the 1980s and was said to be a dman good agent.
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