All I am saying is that currently newspapers print birth and other like notices from info given by actual people as well as from state, city or county departments. People have posted on FR dozens of times how they or their relatives phoned or mailed in birth info and it was posted in the home town or whatever newspaper. To this day it can be done like that in many places.
I lived in HI less than ten years after 0bama was born and the atmosphere was still very laid back and small town. Until proven otherwise, I think it more than likely that people could give the newspaper birth info (or marriage, for that matter) and the papers would print it, as well as offiical info from the HI Heath Dept or whatever it was.
Now I don’t know this for sure, but your assertion that the announcements were without doubt generated solely by the state dept is not proveable one way or another. Maybe, maybe not. And even if that is so, it still doesn’t prove where 0bama was born, just that some kind of birth record had been recorded by (one would assume) his mother.
LJ, if you read my last reply, I didn't say it was "without doubt." I said it was likely, based on my own experience, and you're certainly entitled to your own opinion, based on your experience.
The problem is, that while the announcement doesn't prove, without a doubt, that Obama was born in Hawaii, there's no proof that he was born elsewhere.
I don't think anyone can accuse me of being an Obama supporter -- his policies are anathema to everything I believe in, and I think his life story -- which he used to campaign on, lacking any meaningful experience for the job -- is full of holes and deliberate obfuscation.
On the other hand, though, as someone who's always believed that facts are essential to truth, and truth has to be maintained above all else (lest we sink to the level of what we oppose), I really have a problem with people making statements -- as fact -- for which no one has presented any actual proof, and then insulting people who have a different opinion. (And I'm not referring to you).