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1 posted on 03/10/2009 7:34:45 AM PDT by ryan71
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Obama can't justify........lotta that going around
2 posted on 03/10/2009 7:38:32 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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“Justification”?? What a joke He don’t need no stinkin’ justification for anything he does. Everything he does flies in the face of common sense and well-proven empirical evidence of what works. Unless of course you are out to destroy the US and make it into a commie pig sty where nobody works and inflation runs 1000% a year.


3 posted on 03/10/2009 7:39:42 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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I’m in that 20% group, and yes, I get whacked. My rates are up for the top half of my income and my deductions are limited.

“Middle Class” and “rich” have different meanings depending on who is using the term.

Conservative: “Middle class” is AGI from $50,000 to $500,000. “Rich” is more than that.

Liberal: “Middle class” is AGI from $20,000 to $75,000. Rich is more than that.

You can tax the conservative’s definition of “rich” people of all their income and you won’t get close to funding a $3,400,000,000,000.00 budget. You have to go after the “middle class” to get that kind of money.

As I always remind Mrs. Henkster, when the liberal politicians or their willing media accomplices talk about taxing the rich, they are talking about us.


6 posted on 03/10/2009 7:47:10 AM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: "I'll loan you all the money you need to get out of debt.")
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7 posted on 03/10/2009 7:47:45 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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We must impose on politicians and bureaucrats the same onerous requirement they weigh us down with by forcing them into Social Security and into 401Ks instead of guaranteed pensions courtesy taxpayers.

Right now they are sheltered from the ruin they wrought.

Obama will then have the misery shared by everybody including himself.


8 posted on 03/10/2009 7:50:58 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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I believe that the GOP needs to push for a change in the Alternative Minimum Tax ... so that EVERYONE, regardless of income or exemptions or credits received must pay at least 8% of their income. My calculations estimate this will add $87 Billion dollars to the Treasury.

But more importantly, it will get the lower 50% of earners to shoulder more of the tax burden and work to reduce the population from dependency on the government. And for that reason, it would not pass in this Congress.

Normally, I oppose tax increases but I believe this would be a step to normalize the great disparity and blatantly unconstitutional (14th amendment) progressive tax we currently have.

9 posted on 03/10/2009 7:53:02 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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These taxes really hurt small businesses. My take home salary is in the 5 digits, but since I may have $100,000 in my business account in the end of the year, that $100,000 is also considered part of my salary.

Problem is, I have $100,000 in monthly expenses that I need every cent of that amount for. I desperately need to hire a few more employees, but I’ve got to save to pay that big tax bill.
Somehow, people are more appreciative about $13 a week “tax refund” from the government than they are for a $35,000 a year job from a business owner.


10 posted on 03/10/2009 7:54:49 AM PDT by MNDude
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Robert Gibbs, who is quoted in the article posted is clueless about the nuances of the Income Tax Code. In the article, he states "A middle class family donates a dollar to charity, they get 15 cents off their income tax. Bill Gates donates a dollar to charity, he takes 35 cents off his taxes."

Deductions are already limited for people with high incomes, and the higher the income, the less the deduction is worth:

If the taxpayer's adjusted gross income is above a threshold (or "applicable amount"), then the total allowable itemized deductions is reduced by the lesser of 3% of the excess of adjusted gross income over $156,400; or 80% of the total itemized deductions otherwise allowable.

For example, if someone had an adjusted gross income of $10,000,000 and gave $1,000,000 to charity (and had no other deductions), his allowable deductions would be reduced to $704,692. In the current maximum tax bracket of 35%, he would save about $246,642 or roughly 25% of the original $1,000,000. As incomes rise higher, that percentage gets lower. Under Obama's proposal, those making over $250,000 would be limited to 28% maximum writeoff, and in the above scenario, the taxpayer would take $197,314 off his taxes, or about 20% of the original million donation.

11 posted on 03/10/2009 8:10:06 AM PDT by SC DOC
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The only people affected by the loss of the charitable tax deduction are people who:

1. Pay taxes

and

2. Make charitable deductions.

(Hint: It ain't liberals).

13 posted on 03/10/2009 9:38:31 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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